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Budsdrinker 02-07-2022 10:24 AM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
I'll wait to hear any evidence in this case before I comment on Kamara.
The only thing I can say now, is with all Kamara has done for the city and
from what I can see about his character, if he did beat up somebody, that person must have really done something stupid to piss off Kamara enough to fight.

AsylumGuido 02-07-2022 10:30 AM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 944137)
I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.
The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.

Boston Saint 02-07-2022 10:51 AM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Just got to wait and see what happens when all the facts are in. Maybe multiple other people were involved. Glad that nobody died and (so far) no guns were found. Wouldn’t be the first NFL guy to have a legal scrape and move on.

RailBoss 02-07-2022 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 944086)
Wouldn't be surprised if the Dude who wound up in the Hospital was from Atlanta.
This could even get stranger, the Dude could actually be a She...

saintfan 02-07-2022 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 944096)
A bar fight… If we removed everyone that’s ever been involved in a bar fight from the NFL only Matt Ryan would remain, nope not even owners left, just that pu**y.
:banana: :banana:

saintfan 02-07-2022 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 944124)
Recognizable athletes have been dealing with this for years. There's always going to be someone with liquid courage wanting to prove something and it usually ends up with them getting their asses kicked.
Or they might be NPD and bit off more than they can chew.

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saintfan 02-07-2022 11:17 AM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 944139)
The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.
Many of what principles? This post doesn't make sense. In fact it looks like you just needed to drop in your .02 but you don't really have anything meaningful to say.

Everything is a matter of perspective. In other words, everything is relative. Keep trying. Who knows? In a few years you might actually have a thought you didn't steal.

By the way, nothing is relative about the speed of light, and nothing is relative about a hard cap number either. Dummy.

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Thirty3 02-07-2022 11:35 AM
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I'm anxious for a quick resolution to this so we can march on.

SaintGnome 02-07-2022 11:42 AM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
The gun thing with Lattimore last year sounded serious and then melted away to nothing I bet this does the same.

Rugby Saint II 02-07-2022 12:24 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 944080)
He got into a bar fight and the media is covering it like it’s attempted murder. 😂
My money says the man in the hospital started it but AK finished it.

AsylumGuido 02-07-2022 12:27 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 944137)
I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 944139)
The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.
I have a bit more time to explain, voodooido. First of all, the excellent interview below with Khai Harley covers several of the philosophies of cap management that the Saints utilize. He points out how they take advantage of GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to maximize the cap. He also covers the misconception of "kicking the can down the road".

Secondly, I'll try to give a simple example of that part of their strategy. This utilizes the cost accounting principle of current value versus future value, or the "kicking of the can" referred to above.

In year one we're working with a $100 million dollar cap. Let's assume a 10% annual increase in the cap. In year one a $20M asset counts as (20/100=.20) 20% of the cap.

In year two the cap becomes $110M. That same $20M becomes 20/110=.1818 or 18.18% of the cap.

In year three the cap becomes $121M. That same $20M becomes 20/121=.165 or 16.5% of the cap.

In year four the cap becomes $133.1M. That same $20M becomes 20/133.1=.15 or 15% of the cap.

The cash paid in year one is better accounted for in subsequent periods when it becomes a smaller percentage of the cap. This frees up cap for other assets in all periods. This is the maximization of assets. However, the selling off or trading of assets in a current period negates all of the savings by forcing all future accounting for the costs of those assets into the current period.

Pete 02-07-2022 12:31 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
The Almighty crooked one deployed goons to get the :evil:boss something to look forward to and on top the 2022 punishment list!

He's already grinning like a twisted,deranged, and disliked red-headed stepchild..you can bet your ass

I despise that *astard and can't put nothing past him and the tactics he will use while he sits in a pile of donkey s*** to sling at others.

He's ruined the game during his obviously agenda driven authoritative rule for me..
"Entertainment huh"
"Vega$ huh"

Big Market Teams in trouble:
give them a biased pass just to show Saints I'm not done with them just yet.

Saints in trouble:
Dribbles wad and drools

:censored::gun:AK41 into the red meat

Tin-foil... Nahhh








Sometimes it just is what it is..fight and handle your business or lay down and get stomped..


I think Alvin will be traded

Gotohell wins again..
Sorry mf

Rugby Saint II 02-07-2022 12:34 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 944130)
Never been a “nightclub” person or saw the attraction of them. It’s almost as if these athletes want to show off their money.
The super hot women at the dance clubs make it worth the risk. Mostly....but not always. :bugeyes:

jeanpierre 02-07-2022 01:51 PM
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jeanpierre 02-07-2022 01:52 PM
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jeanpierre 02-07-2022 01:53 PM
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jeanpierre 02-07-2022 01:54 PM
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saintfan 02-07-2022 01:56 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
So he was assaulted by a group of people and the only one he can remember is Kamara eh?

MatthewT 02-07-2022 02:48 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Having video match the complaint is bad news for the Saints and AK. I hope this is a big misunderstanding and AK didn't do anything wrong, gut feeling tells me he will be off the team in the near future.

jeanpierre 02-07-2022 03:05 PM
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jeanpierre 02-07-2022 03:13 PM
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(Excerpt)

...Kamara reportedly told detectives Greene called one of his friends ugly and he later said “I’ll whoop your a** too.” The document says Kamara saw a fight break out, saw Greene getting punched, and threw a “couple” punches of his own.

When asked why he punched Greene, Kamara reportedly told detectives he thought Greene was running away and had done something to his group, so he chased and punched Greene several times...

SaintGnome 02-07-2022 03:40 PM
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The video when it comes out is going to be uuuuuuugly

jeanpierre 02-07-2022 03:55 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
If Kamara's statement is accurate, he f'ed up when he chased the guy...

ChrisXVI 02-07-2022 04:08 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Yeah Kamara messed up. He was probably preeetty drunk and helped jump a guy over some s*** talking. Hope he does get punished. Alcohol and being a man-child don’t mix.

bobdog86 02-07-2022 04:10 PM
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it was like 630am.....either everyone was probably still sauced or close to.
SaintGnome's right...video is gonna be uglyy

voodooido 02-07-2022 05:23 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 944155)
I have a bit more time to explain, voodooido. First of all, the excellent interview below with Khai Harley covers several of the philosophies of cap management that the Saints utilize. He points out how they take advantage of GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to maximize the cap. He also covers the misconception of "kicking the can down the road".

Secondly, I'll try to give a simple example of that part of their strategy. This utilizes the cost accounting principle of current value versus future value, or the "kicking of the can" referred to above.

In year one we're working with a $100 million dollar cap. Let's assume a 10% annual increase in the cap. In year one a $20M asset counts as (20/100=.20) 20% of the cap.

In year two the cap becomes $110M. That same $20M becomes 20/110=.1818 or 18.18% of the cap.

In year three the cap becomes $121M. That same $20M becomes 20/121=.165 or 16.5% of the cap.

In year four the cap becomes $133.1M. That same $20M becomes 20/133.1=.15 or 15% of the cap.

The cash paid in year one is better accounted for in subsequent periods when it becomes a smaller percentage of the cap. This frees up cap for other assets in all periods. This is the maximization of assets. However, the selling off or trading of assets in a current period negates all of the savings by forcing all future accounting for the costs of those assets into the current period.

Khai Harley talks Saints Salary Cap, Business of NFL Football - YouTube

Wife doesn’t allow me to have money so the cap is beyond my understanding. I just hate always seeing us in the red

neugey 02-07-2022 05:38 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
I hated the Pro Bowl before this. Now I really really really hate it! Alvin should've been there, because the Pro Bowl is freaking trash!

dizzle88 02-07-2022 05:54 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
The new age of Superstar players unfortunately comes with this baggage.

I don't recall Colston, Henderson, Moore, Meachem and PT23 making any troublesome news in their time here.

These new ages guys aren't role models, they are entitled millionaires that have an ego bigger than their brain.

saintfan 02-07-2022 06:00 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 944210)
The new age of Superstar players unfortunately comes with this baggage.

I don't recall Colston, Henderson, Moore, Meachem and PT23 making any troublesome news in their time here.

These new ages guys aren't role models, they are entitled millionaires that have an ego bigger than their brain.
They're kids - most of them anyway, relative to those of us with more than a few decades on em. Kids with a lot of money. At worst its a life lesson. Back in my days hanging out in honkytonks...with millions in my pocket? Lord have mercy...

iceshack149 02-07-2022 06:10 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 944213)
They're kids - most of them anyway, relative to those of us with more than a few decades on em. Kids with a lot of money. At worst its a life lesson. Back in my days hanging out in honkytonks...with millions in my pocket? Lord have mercy...

And EVERYONE has a a phone with a video camera. I'm glad my partying days are behind me and that I didn't have to deal with cameras everywhere I went.

halloween 65 02-07-2022 06:16 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 944215)
And EVERYONE has a a phone with a video camera. I'm glad my partying days are behind me and that I didn't have to deal with cameras everywhere I went.
Me to.

SaintGnome 02-07-2022 06:26 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 944210)
The new age of Superstar players unfortunately comes with this baggage.

I don't recall Colston, Henderson, Moore, Meachem and PT23 making any troublesome news in their time here.

These new ages guys aren't role models, they are entitled millionaires that have an ego bigger than their brain.
I'm not sure that's the problem. The police report said AK did not hit the guy first, one of his guys did. Wrong crowd, maybe?

K Major 02-07-2022 07:11 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
The upcoming suspension by the league will be bad for AK.

Roger G was waiting for this one.

jeanpierre 02-07-2022 07:20 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 944210)
The new age of Superstar players unfortunately comes with this baggage.

I don't recall Colston, Henderson, Moore, Meachem and PT23 making any troublesome news in their time here.

These new ages guys aren't role models, they are entitled millionaires that have an ego bigger than their brain.
These kind of incident have always been happening; let's talk about Raiders John Matuszak and Lyle Alzado when they came to New Orleans for the Superbowl...

I pulled a few weeks security duty at the Grand Lodge Building on St Charles one summer to help a friend; a certain former Saints reserve DB, high as a kite, was running the roof perimeter...

jeanpierre 02-07-2022 07:20 PM
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Saint in Aus 02-07-2022 08:09 PM
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Not good

bobdog86 02-07-2022 08:17 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Old Schitbird Roger is gonna make an example out of AK……as a warning to any player that’s in Vegas repping the colors. Regardless of the outcome, AK is gonna pay for it.

RailBoss 02-07-2022 08:30 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Be interesting to see what this Darnell Greenes background looks like.
Just hope he's not some errand from God figure.
I'll have to say this is way off the line from AK's character.
I just don't see it but there's a bunch of familiar names that can alter ones judgement.
Like Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, Jose Cuervo, Ron Bacardi, Ezra Brooks, Johnnie Walker to name a few..
One thing for certain this is one of DA's first major problems.

The Dude 02-07-2022 09:17 PM
Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 944237)
Be interesting to see what this Darnell Greenes background looks like.
Just hope he's not some errand from God figure.
I'll have to say this is way off the line from AK's character.
I just don't see it but there's a bunch of familiar names that can alter ones judgement.
Like Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, Jose Cuervo, Ron Bacardi, Ezra Brooks, Johnnie Walker to name a few..
One thing for certain this is one of DA's first major problems.
Wonder how he handles it. Does he set the tone by making an example out of AK and cut ties with him? It’s going to be interesting to see because this incident could help define the culture he wants to cultivate. He would be a fool to do so. I think.

RailBoss 02-07-2022 10:42 PM
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Coming in and taking over for SP will be challenging enough, don't see DA cutting out his biggest gun. He has to get the message out that this crazy activity isn't gonna fly on his watch. But like most everyone else here thinks it's the Crooked Commish that's gonna make things difficult.

Well if you see a 5ft 10- 215 pound Running Back with a reflector vest
and a Big Squeezy T-shirt under it picking up litter on I-10 chances are it just might be AK.


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