Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Nothing to add to the conversation. That picture of Kamara is awesome and belongs on a wall in the Superdome.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Good listen here on the AK "situation" ...

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

All we can do as fans is hope it doesn’t come into play. As on organization, plan that it does.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

I don't know how old you are Boston but you are wise beyond your years.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Thanks Rugby. That’s nice to hear. I don’t consider myself wise or smart. Just smart enough to know that there are lots of things I don’t know.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Old enough to know about the great movie classics!

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

This is what I have been saying for weeks. It wouldn't be at all surprising if the legal conclusion doesn't take place until after the 2022 season. The league now holds off on any discipline in possible criminal cases until the case is resolved. Really the only way I can see an early season suspension is if the State of Nevada and the complainant both decide not to pursue any charges. Then the league can act immediately.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

🤞

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

A couple of points to note in this case are that there are four defendants, Kamara and three others and that there are two separate charges being considered, one a misdemeanor and the other a felony. The misdemeanor is for simple assault while the felony deals with serious bodily harm (a fractured orbital). Assault would be fairly straight forward, but to pin the felony charge on Kamara the prosecution would have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it was Kamara that fractured that orbital. It is rumored that the video shows Kamara landing eight punches. It is also rumored that the video shows the other defendants kicking and stomping on the head of the alleged victim. It can be suggested that the fracture more likely occurred during the kicking and stomping portion of the encounter.

As the previous interview with Drew Davenport points out, there hasn't been any movement since April with the State still not having brought forth official charges. While it is always prudent to have options in place, I have a feeling a Kamara suspension isn't going to be anything to be addressed this season.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Hopefully Kamara will not be suspended this season. We would be able to use a draft pick on on Ingram's replacement next year.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Def hoping for no suspension! 🤞. Even so, I’m (hopefully unjustifiably) worried. Kamara gets dinged up. He’s not a big back. He’s missed games in all but one season he’s been drafted and plays banged up often. He’s Only had 200 carries once (last year) and averaged under 4.0 YPC. I know the Oline sucked and there were no WRs and the QBs suffered… but AK is another year older and most RBs don’t get better as they get older. Not sure Ingram, JJ, Ozzy and Smith give me confidence as a group. Time will tell.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Goes with the territory when discussing RB's. They mostly all get banged up and lose time. That's why they are among the lowest paid position. That said, Kamara is clearly one of the most dangerous players in the league. He is arguably more impactful catching the ball than simply toting the rock. I wouldn't be so concerned with his carries.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

RBs are not longer the primary feature of most offenses today. That's more likely a reason for their decline in compensation.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

It bothers me that he lost his **** and acted like an idiot. I lost a lot of respect for him. I get it if it was self defense, but running the guy down and beating the holy hell out of him with your buddies kicking and stomping on him is pretty cowardly. Just gross.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

This is true, as well. Only a handful of RB's in todays game account for as much offense as does Kamara. Even a big, punishing RB like Henry, 2nd highest paid at $12.5 million per year, with the run centric Titans has been limited in playing time recently. The same with Delvin Cook and Nick Chubb, also both over $12 million.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Absolutely agree.

That's what society has developed into, he'll be celebrated and admired for his exceptional talent on the field, when the true measure is how you hold yourself in times of adversity.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Agreed. He probably should be suspended and fined.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Oh, he'll no doubt be suspended. Not sure what good the fine would do as it is defined by the CBA as pretty much a token amount. The lost game checks will dwarf any fine he could have received.

Yes, what he did was stupid, as was hanging around his "posse" which probably exacerbated the situation. But, I know I did stupid stuff at that young age. I'll bet many of us did. I will withhold a blanket loss of respect until I see how he responds moving forward.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

A fine isn't supposed to do good. It's an additional penalty.

Alvin Kamara is 27 (not exactly a kid) and also one of the most recognizable NFL players and admired by children everywhere.

Stop making excuses for this type of behavior. It's wrong and he's lucky the guy didn't die.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

According to the CBA the surrendered game checks are the fine. For example, DeAndre Hopkins "fine" for PED's this season amounts to $5,233,333.50.

And I'm not making any excuses. What the four of them did was wrong. They should have ignored the guy. They will get the punishment they deserve eventually. I believe in second chances. Kamara had a clear record prior to this episode. There's no reason to believe he won't continue as a model citizen from this point on.

John 8:7 - "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. On the other hand, my first martial arts instructor told me to never let an opponent up off the ground because when they do get up they'll be even madder. There has to be a middle ground somewhere. People have to understand that there are consequences. Whether it was the thug hassling Kamara or Kamara learning not to lose his temper.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Dude got beat up. He’ll be aight. It ain’t like they shot him. This is being overdramatized.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

I believe the "thug", as you put it, got exactly what he wanted. He surely knew who Kamara was and the provocation was there. The guy took to social media immediately setting the groundwork for a payoff. The "victim", Darnell “SquirtBuck” Greene, supposedly called one of the guys ugly and then said, "I'll whoop your ass too."

Once again, Kamara should have just ignored the guy.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

But...but.. he started it!:dunce:

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Yeah, I thought about that too. It was premeditated I tell ya'.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

I couldn't help but notice that someone is making excuses for idiotic behavior (not surprising). Turning the cheek or making excuses for that type of behavior by anyone is what is wrong with this country. People need to be held accountable. AK is a grown man, not a "kid." I'm sure he and all his friends felt empowered and badass while they kicked and stomped a guy that was on the ground defenseless. Way to represent.

The guy was obviously a POS anyway. But AK should be better than that.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Lack of due process is also what is wrong with the country. So is the fishing for payola.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Chalking this up to "being a kid" or "a mistake" is precisely making an excuse.

Don't quote scripture at me Guido. Like you're morally superior... That's just about the most condescending you could possibly be. Get over yourself.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

The vultures are circling. ;)

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Dude didn't die from injuries related to multiple assailants repeatedly punching and kicking him even after he fell to the ground.

Facts, or drama?

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Don't know what the facts are. I know what has been claimed. Like the criminal lawyer in the interview said, if he had a dollar for every description of what was supposedly on a video and was wrong he could retire. At this point everything is hearsay. They were arrested on suspicion of assault and/or severe bodily harm. They haven't even been formally charged as of yet.

I'm not saying they are innocent, but there is such a thing as due process.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

My point was the victim wasn't just "beat up"...

I'm not judging the case Guido nor am I a lawyer. And because you aren't either, you can reserve excuses. As well as condescending biblical verses.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Not condescending. Very appropriate.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

What happened to just letting things roll off your back Guido? Isn't that your ethos....?

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Explain how things are not rolling off my back. :confused:

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

Injuries tend to happen when you get beat up. So yeah, I’d say drama. Dude picked a fight with a group of grown men (professional athletes at that) and lost. **** happens. It ain’t like they shot him in his back while he was running away or something. He lived to tell his story and make some money off of it. Suspend Kamara for 2 to 4 games and let’s move on. He didn’t lose any respect on my end. Let’s play football.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

I'm wondering if this might be pertinent to the current discussion.

Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested
 

But we've seen people die in similar instances. One punch is all it takes man. I'm sure you've seen or at least heard of it in your line of work. Just one of these hits or kicks lands the right way and we're having a completely different conversation.