Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years.

Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC.

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Or he might not like the way Allen's way of changing the O ? He!! he might not like Allen period? Somethings up.

If he did not like him he could take the head coach interview, and then if passed over ask to be released, and go elsewhere. Thats common when one coordinator gets the head gig the other asks to move on, its respected. He could prove elsewhere that he is good without Payton. I just think refusing an interview and asking for a demotion is a weird strategy for anything. If he wants to go back to being Paytons OC how does asking for a demotion help? And what kind of plan is that having no idea where Payton will end up or whether Payton will love broadcasting or whether the jobs Payton wants will come open?

I keep seeing people around here mentioning Carmichael asking for a demotion. I'm not sure where that came from. All that has been said is that he would not be the OC, yet will remain with the team in an offensive capacity. Nowhere that I can find states that the decision to separate Carmichael from the OC spot was his. I have also not been able to find anywhere that the position moving forward was going to be a demotion.

As you just mentioned, Bako, that makes no sense. The refusing an interview part, however, makes sense if he already knew that Allen was getting the job and that another position was reserved for him.

Does anyone have a reliable source where either or both of these has been shared as fact?

You are not the fact checker here. It's a freaking forum on the freaking internet little speedo. Speculating is what we do, and NOBODY here wants you trolling them as the fact police. Leave your damned ego at the login screen.

You, sir, have the hugest ego on the entire site. You've made that quite obvious from what I have been told. There's nothing wrong with asking if anyone has seen where Carmichael has actually asked for a demotion. I was agreeing with Bako that it made no sense. It's not "fact checking", it is simply wanting to know as much as I can about the team I love. It would be interesting if that actually happened. I never saw that in my daily readings and haven't been able to find anything about it searching.

Is there anything wrong with that?