Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2022, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

Yup. He averaged over 100 yards per game in 2019 in the five games with Teddy under center.

jeanpierre · 02-20-2022, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

Thomas was injured, playing injured then...

rezburna · 02-19-2022, 08:22 AM

The only reason there is constant talks about trading Michael Thomas on this forum is because people don’t like him. Once the million dollar race horse gets out of line and says the wrong thing they have to be put down for their lack of appreciation. Rams aren’t trying to move Cooper Kupp. Chiefs aren’t trying to move Tyreek Hill. Packers don’t want to lose Davante Adams. But here are the Saints fans trying to move a top WR talent on a team that is deprived at that position and doesn’t have a QB. The QB whisperer is gone. You need all the talent you can get at these skill positions now. We aren’t about to scheme our way out of **** anymore.

Boston Saint · 02-19-2022, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The only reason there is constant talks about trading Michael Thomas on this forum is because people don’t like him. Once the million dollar race horse gets out of line and says the wrong thing they have to be put down for their lack of appreciation. Rams aren’t trying to move Cooper Kupp. Chiefs aren’t trying to move Tyreek Hill. Packers don’t want to lose Davante Adams. But here are the Saints fans trying to move a top WR talent on a team that is deprived at that position and doesn’t have a QB. The QB whisperer is gone. You need all the talent you can get at these skill positions now. We aren’t about to scheme our way out of **** anymore.

Getting out of line is one thing. Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else. And for the record, Im upset about how he’s handled things but I’m not advocating a trade either.

rezburna · 02-19-2022, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Getting out of line is one thing. Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else. And for the record, Im upset about how he’s handled things but I’m not advocating a trade either.

I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind.

saintfan · 02-19-2022, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind.

Keyshawn spoke to that a while back in an interview I saw on the MT situation. He didn't call out the organization but he spoke to MTs career and long term future. If it were me I wouldn't never trust the team. Any team. Always get whatever they tell you verified.

SaintGnome · 02-19-2022, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind.

Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else."

I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2022, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else."

I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same.

If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either.

K Major · 02-19-2022, 09:35 AM

The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense.

He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft.

We shall see.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2022, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense.

He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft.

We shall see.

Absolutely all of this!

From everything Thomas is saying he wants to return and ball for the Saints. From everything the Saints are saying they want him back and balling for the Saints. From everything the salary cap says is that there's no way you take a huge cap hit by getting rid of perhaps your top asset when you need to do just the opposite. The Saints can clear around $10 million from the 2022 cap with a simple restructure (no approval of the player required) of his $15.35 million base salary and $450K in 2022 bonuses. All that is required is that he remains on the roster.

02-19-2022, 08:11 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month. Taysom and Teddy were under center. Yup. He averaged over 100 yards per game in 2019 in the five games with Teddy under center.

02-20-2022, 09:55 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month. Taysom and Teddy were under center. Thomas was injured, playing injured then...

02-19-2022, 08:22 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place The only reason there is constant talks about trading Michael Thomas on this forum is because people don’t like him. Once the million dollar race horse gets out of line and says the wrong thing they have to be put down for their lack of appreciation. Rams aren’t trying to move Cooper Kupp. Chiefs aren’t trying to move Tyreek Hill. Packers don’t want to lose Davante Adams. But here are the Saints fans trying to move a top WR talent on a team that is deprived at that position and doesn’t have a QB. The QB whisperer is gone. You need all the talent you can get at these skill positions now. We aren’t about to scheme our way out of **** anymore. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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02-19-2022, 09:02 AM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by rezburna The only reason there is constant talks about trading Michael Thomas on this forum is because people don’t like him. Once the million dollar race horse gets out of line and says the wrong thing they have to be put down for their lack of appreciation. Rams aren’t trying to move Cooper Kupp. Chiefs aren’t trying to move Tyreek Hill. Packers don’t want to lose Davante Adams. But here are the Saints fans trying to move a top WR talent on a team that is deprived at that position and doesn’t have a QB. The QB whisperer is gone. You need all the talent you can get at these skill positions now. We aren’t about to scheme our way out of **** anymore. Getting out of line is one thing. Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else. And for the record, Im upset about how he’s handled things but I’m not advocating a trade either.

02-19-2022, 09:05 AM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by Boston Saint Getting out of line is one thing. Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else. And for the record, Im upset about how he’s handled things but I’m not advocating a trade either. I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind. AsylumGuido likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by rezburna I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind. Keyshawn spoke to that a while back in an interview I saw on the MT situation. He didn't call out the organization but he spoke to MTs career and long term future. If it were me I wouldn't never trust the team. Any team. Always get whatever they tell you verified. K Major and rezburna like this.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by rezburna I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind. Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else." I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by SaintGnome Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else." I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same. If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either.

02-19-2022, 09:35 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense. He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft. We shall see. Crusader, saintsfan1976 and AsylumGuido like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense. He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft. We shall see. Absolutely all of this! From everything Thomas is saying he wants to return and ball for the Saints. From everything the Saints are saying they want him back and balling for the Saints. From everything the salary cap says is that there's no way you take a huge cap hit by getting rid of perhaps your top asset when you need to do just the opposite. The Saints can clear around $10 million from the 2022 cap with a simple restructure (no approval of the player required) of his $15.35 million base salary and $450K in 2022 bonuses. All that is required is that he remains on the roster.
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