Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans

AsylumGuido · 08-14-2022, 12:46 PM

SmashMouth · 08-14-2022, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Only one pre season game in the books but Penning needs all the reps he can get. I was glad Dougie M played him most of the game.

It will take some time before he takes the starting LT spot away from Hurst.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1558861027411783681

So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game?

K Major · 08-14-2022, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game?

Lol.

Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning.

What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years.

Crusader · 08-14-2022, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol.

Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning.

What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years.

I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous.
He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL.

SmashMouth · 08-15-2022, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol.

Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning.

What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years.

Originally Posted by Crusader

I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous.
He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL.

K Major likes this.

iceshack149 · 08-15-2022, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game?

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol.

Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning.

What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years.

Originally Posted by Crusader

I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous.
He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL.

I didn't watch the game but listening to Deuce Windham's perspective this morning he said that Penning seemed to struggle a lot when Book was dropping back much further than he was supposed to. Of course Lineman can't see where the QB is so the reps taken in camp give them an idea and a feel where the QB is supposed to be on the play.

Yes, I feel a little dirty giving someone else's perspective on a game rather than my own but I thought that it was worth considering.

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2022, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I didn't watch the game but listening to Deuce Windham's perspective this morning he said that Penning seemed to struggle a lot when Book was dropping back much further than he was supposed to. Of course Lineman can't see where the QB is so the reps taken in camp give them an idea and a feel where the QB is supposed to be on the play.

Yes, I feel a little dirty giving someone else's perspective on a game rather than my own but I thought that it was worth considering.

I've heard the exact same thing previously as a critique of other QB's. It's hard for a lineman to protect a QB if that QB isn't where he is expected to be.

turbo_dog · 08-16-2022, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1558861027411783681

How can this be true and the following also be true?

From NFL.com
52) Saints first round pick Trevor Penning didn't start the preseason opener and then had the lowest PFF pass-blocking grade on the team, giving up a sack, a QB hit and three pressures with a penalty in 26 passing downs. Penning's competition at left tackle, James Hurst, played six snaps alongside the rest of the starters.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-pr...es-position-ba

AsylumGuido · 08-17-2022, 10:20 AM

AsylumGuido · 08-17-2022, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

How can this be true and the following also be true?

From NFL.com
52) Saints first round pick Trevor Penning didn't start the preseason opener and then had the lowest PFF pass-blocking grade on the team, giving up a sack, a QB hit and three pressures with a penalty in 26 passing downs. Penning's competition at left tackle, James Hurst, played six snaps alongside the rest of the starters.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-pr...es-position-ba

The first show only Penning's pass-blocking rating. I would assume his run blocking numbers on the other 30 snaps must have been so high that his overall rating was as high as it was.

08-14-2022, 12:46 PM	#1
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,549 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by K Major Only one pre season game in the books but Penning needs all the reps he can get. I was glad Dougie M played him most of the game. It will take some time before he takes the starting LT spot away from Hurst. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1558861027411783681 So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game? K Major likes this.

08-14-2022, 01:40 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,795 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by SmashMouth So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game? Lol. Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning. What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years. Crusader, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by K Major Lol. Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning. What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years. I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous. He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL. leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

08-15-2022, 11:13 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,549 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by K Major Lol. Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning. What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years. Originally Posted by Crusader I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous. He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL. Twitter K Major likes this.

08-15-2022, 12:08 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,367 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by SmashMouth So what you're saying is that Trevor "Pending" doesn't deserve his new nickname yet despite his slower feet exhibited this past game? Originally Posted by K Major Lol. Naw, it's gonna take time just like all of the other rookies. As most expected, his pass blocking & footwork needs fine tuning. What I like most about Trevor is that he's coachable, has a mean streak and a ridiculous ceiling. He could end up as your starting bookend for the next 8-10 years. Originally Posted by Crusader I totally agree with this. I am very critical of his CURRENT technique but the potential he posesses is tremendous. He is quite typical of the college player that has gotten by a lot on size and strength, he will have a period of time while getting used to the NFL. I didn't watch the game but listening to Deuce Windham's perspective this morning he said that Penning seemed to struggle a lot when Book was dropping back much further than he was supposed to. Of course Lineman can't see where the QB is so the reps taken in camp give them an idea and a feel where the QB is supposed to be on the play. Yes, I feel a little dirty giving someone else's perspective on a game rather than my own but I thought that it was worth considering. Crusader, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-15-2022, 12:23 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,569	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by iceshack149 I didn't watch the game but listening to Deuce Windham's perspective this morning he said that Penning seemed to struggle a lot when Book was dropping back much further than he was supposed to. Of course Lineman can't see where the QB is so the reps taken in camp give them an idea and a feel where the QB is supposed to be on the play. Yes, I feel a little dirty giving someone else's perspective on a game rather than my own but I thought that it was worth considering. I've heard the exact same thing previously as a critique of other QB's. It's hard for a lineman to protect a QB if that QB isn't where he is expected to be.

08-16-2022, 12:50 PM	#8
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,649	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1558861027411783681 How can this be true and the following also be true? From NFL.com 52) Saints first round pick Trevor Penning didn't start the preseason opener and then had the lowest PFF pass-blocking grade on the team, giving up a sack, a QB hit and three pressures with a penalty in 26 passing downs. Penning's competition at left tackle, James Hurst, played six snaps alongside the rest of the starters. https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-pr...es-position-ba

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08-17-2022, 10:26 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,569	Re: Observations from the Saints preseason loss to the Texans Originally Posted by turbo_dog How can this be true and the following also be true? From NFL.com 52) Saints first round pick Trevor Penning didn't start the preseason opener and then had the lowest PFF pass-blocking grade on the team, giving up a sack, a QB hit and three pressures with a penalty in 26 passing downs. Penning's competition at left tackle, James Hurst, played six snaps alongside the rest of the starters. https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-pr...es-position-ba The first show only Penning's pass-blocking rating. I would assume his run blocking numbers on the other 30 snaps must have been so high that his overall rating was as high as it was.