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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint Guido, have some self reflection. This entire thread was started by me making observations. You proceeded to disagree with me on at least two of them. Who is the one being argumentative? My God you ...

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Old 09-13-2022, 02:02 PM   #31
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Guido, have some self reflection. This entire thread was started by me making observations. You proceeded to disagree with me on at least two of them. Who is the one being argumentative? My God you dish it out but you won’t take it.
I'm through with you for now, Boston. I am not playing your game.
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I'm through with you for now, Boston. I am not playing your game.
Oh what a surprise. Accuse me and run.
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:30 PM   #33
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I hate to say it, Boston, but I think your only option at this point is to block him. He's obviously not going anywhere. Your time on this site will get better. I speak from experience.
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:04 PM   #34
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I hate to say it, Boston, but I think your only option at this point is to block him. He's obviously not going anywhere. Your time on this site will get better. I speak from experience.
Yes, please! Find someone else to argue with, Boston. I'm sick of it.
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:24 PM   #35
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I hate to say it, Boston, but I think your only option at this point is to block him. He's obviously not going anywhere. Your time on this site will get better. I speak from experience.
Well, he’s run off a few users from this site. Apparently he’s proud of that. He’s obviously trying to bully me off as well. Only problem is I don’t run from bullies.
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Yes, please! Find someone else to argue with, Boston. I'm sick of it.
If you can’t handle people responding to articles you post then DON’T POST ARTICLES !
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Old 09-14-2022, 10:17 AM   #37
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Well, he’s run off a few users from this site. Apparently he’s proud of that. He’s obviously trying to bully me off as well. Only problem is I don’t run from bullies.
Yes he has. He's unquestionably the best troll I've ever witnessed online. But like I said, he's not going anywhere and he's ruining my favorite site on the internet. It's best just to blot him out of the experience and discuss the Saints with other people that are here to enjoy the camaraderie with other Saints fans.
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Old 09-14-2022, 10:21 AM   #38
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Old 09-14-2022, 12:57 PM   #39
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Yes this is an onion regardless of how the talking heads portray it. Saints own the rights to Sean through 2024 and you are correct that's two seasons.

Quite a few stars have to align.
- Sean has to find what he called "the right fit".
- The Saints have to agree to releasing him. I wouldn't take a pick to let Sean go to the NFC South.
- The destination team has to offer something the Saints want. I suspect a 58yo winning-est coach for a franchise would be very expensive for a destination team.
- The destination team has to offer Sean something he wants. That Miami 100MM offer he turned down set a very high floor.


Lets assume all of the stars align... The Saints don't decide to hold on to his contract hoping he wants to come back to New Orleans after another year off, Dallas offers the moon to the Saints, and the Stars to Sean Payton.. While Sean and Jerry do have a good friendship, they are polar opposites in terms of Owner HC culture, Jerry can not keep his hands off and Sean requires autonomy. There would be a funeral after the first draft. I have some very close friends that I would never work with, and I believe that is where Sean is with Dallas/Jones.
I am not sure how the rights to coaches works. For players, if they retire and don't play, their rights don't toll, so Detroit and Indy hold the rights to Megatron and Luck until they die. I would be surprised if coaches contracts just expire while they are retired, I would think we hold the rights to Payton until he comes back and coaches 2-3 for us, so another team can never get him without trading with us.

I think the Monday Night game introduces Denver as another possible destination for Payton. They have an elite short QB, good receivers, and a questionable coach the new owners didnt hire, making bad decisions and unable to get the offense to work. Unfortunately Denver does not have 2023 1st or 2nd round picks due to the Wilson trade. So I think they could be a player but we would have to take 2024 and/or 2025 picks. The key thing is that we need a bidding war or a big offer. We can't allow a situation where Payton says he is only interested in 1 team and that team offers a 3rd round pick because they are bidding against nobody and we take it because we are afraid to get nothing. We have to make them afraid of not getting their coach and make whoever it is pay dearly.
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:02 PM   #40
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I am not sure how the rights to coaches works. For players, if they retire and don't play, their rights don't toll, so Detroit and Indy hold the rights to Megatron and Luck until they die. I would be surprised if coaches contracts just expire while they are retired, I would think we hold the rights to Payton until he comes back and coaches 2-3 for us, so another team can never get him without trading with us.

I think the Monday Night game introduces Denver as another possible destination for Payton. They have an elite short QB, good receivers, and a questionable coach the new owners didnt hire, making bad decisions and unable to get the offense to work. Unfortunately Denver does not have 2023 1st or 2nd round picks due to the Wilson trade. So I think they could be a player but we would have to take 2024 and/or 2025 picks. The key thing is that we need a bidding war or a big offer. We can't allow a situation where Payton says he is only interested in 1 team and that team offers a 3rd round pick because they are bidding against nobody and we take it because we are afraid to get nothing. We have to make them afraid of not getting their coach and make whoever it is pay dearly.
Coaching contracts don't toll. That was made clear by several sources as soon as his retirement announcement was made. Payton's contract will expire after the 2024 season.
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