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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 L O L of the Year . Guido, you do realize you're constantly telling members here how they should feel. You see that, right ? All the... "I just don't let it bother me" "I just ...

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Old 10-03-2022, 03:26 PM   #51
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Re: Could We Crowdfund Private Investigators Against Corrupt NFL Referees?

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
L O L of the Year.

Guido, you do realize you're constantly telling members here how they should feel. You see that, right?

All the... "I just don't let it bother me" "I just let the 'experts' decide" "we'll the players say it's ok so you shouldn't challenge them.."
You are absolutely right. I have been wrong and have done this.

That still doesn't make it right to claim I care less about my Saints than someone who gets all angry and pissed off, does it?
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Old 10-03-2022, 03:27 PM   #52
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You don't tell me how I feel and what things mean to me. Where do you get off doing that?

Just like dizzle pointed out, people process things differently. One's personal reaction doesn't have anything to do with what something means to that person. That is extremely shallow.

We plan our year around the Saints. We plan our week around the Saints. I don't plan anything "around the NFL". If other games are on and I have nothing better to do I watch them. Yesterday after the Saints game my wife and I went out and enjoyed our pool for the remainder of the day. It was the last day we'll be able to utilize the pool most likely since we'll be gone to Saints games or on a cruise the next four weeks.
But it’s all good if you label someone else’s reaction to a Saints loss as “Sad”, isn’t it Guido.

GTFO with your “don’t tell me how I feel” Sanctimonious BS. I stand by the statement. If someone is able to easily blow off a Saints loss while someone else says it brings them into a form of depression then YES the game meant more to the person in depression.
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Old 10-03-2022, 03:43 PM   #53
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But it’s all good if you label someone else’s reaction to a Saints loss as “Sad”, isn’t it Guido.

GTFO with your “don’t tell me how I feel” Sanctimonious BS. I stand by the statement. If someone is able to easily blow off a Saints loss while someone else says it brings them into a form of depression then YES the game meant more to the person in depression.
I didn't "label" anyone's reaction as "sad". I simply said it is sad that someone feels they have to forgo watching something they love. It is sad.

And I don't blow off any loss. I spend days thinking about how things could have worked out differently, replaying things in my mind. It's just the way I am wired. I am still bothered by each of our losses this season.

People handle grief and disappointment differently. You can have three children who all love their parent. The way they handle the grief can vary tremendously if that parent dies. One can become angry and mad at the world. Another can retreat into a shell. The other can process the grief while continuing to function. None of them has to love their late parent any less or any more than the other.

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Old 10-03-2022, 04:10 PM   #54
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OK Guido, you have your view. Im not going to fall for your corkscrew PA argumentative style right now. Another fan called you out on this thread before I did. I know you don’t care.

I’m going to give it this one shot (god knows why) in helping you to try and understand another viewpoint.

Dizz and I were in a back and forth about views/reactions from watching the game. I brought up a family member with dizz, making it personal.

You chime in with a post that starts with; “I really don't get how some "fans" get so stressed out over the games.”

Now regardless of what came next, you stuck your nose into a back and forth with an antagonistic statement when you italicize the word “fan”.

So, Play Superfan all you want. Again, I stand by my statement. If you don’t get it that’s ok. But just because YOU don’t get something doesn’t mean it’s not true. Sorry to burst your ego bubble but you aren’t the ultimate Saints fan. Nor am I.

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Old 10-03-2022, 04:31 PM   #55
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OK Guido, you have your view. Im not going to fall for your corkscrew PA argumentative style right now. Another fan called you out on this thread before I did. I know you don’t care.

I’m going to give it this one shot (god knows why) in helping you to try and understand another viewpoint.

Dizz and I were in a back and forth about views/reactions from watching the game. I brought up a family member with dizz, making it personal.

You chime in with a post that starts with; “I really don't get how some "fans" get so stressed out over the games.”

Now regardless of what came next, you stuck your nose into a back and forth with an antagonistic statement when you italicize the word “fan”.

So, Play Superfan all you want. Again, I stand by my statement. If you don’t get it that’s ok. But just because YOU don’t get something doesn’t mean it’s not true. Sorry to burst your ego bubble but you aren’t the ultimate Saints fan. Nor am I.
I am no more or no less a fan than anyone here, Boston. We are all fans or we wouldn't be here. But we are also individuals with differing personalities. We all have differing degrees of how we handle disappointment.

I honestly don't get how some fans get so stressed out and angry over the games. I will admit I was wrong for quoting "fans" earlier. But, I don't get it because that's not how I react. On the other hand, you apparently don't get how I am not so stressed out or angry over the games. That's understandable. It's because we process disappointment differently. That doesn't mean any of us are any more or any less disappointed than the other. It's all in how we are wired.

I would really like to thank dizzle for taking the time to explain his feelings. It really helped me understand how he felt and how it affects him. I do hope that well before he gets to be an old fart like me that his reactions do mellow as he said he hoped.



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Old 10-04-2022, 06:48 PM   #56
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We all do process things differently.

When the refs and Roger Goodell are disappointed by the outcome of a Saints win they are proactive and go do something about it and make sure it doesn't happen again.

When Mickey Loomis is disappointed by a bad draft pick or bad high dollar free agent signing he is proactive in his own way. He disposes of as many future draft picks and future cap dollars as possible so there won't be any draft pick or big free agent for people to criticize him over next time, then he restructures and extends the disappointing players contract so that there will be $50 million dead cap if we ever release them, so that holding onto that player can be considered 'smart' point forward once the ink is dry.

I process things in terms of thinking about what should be done if we want to win. So that's frustrating and disappointing only so long as the current regime will not do it, and so long as Roger Goodell is the dictator king of the NFL. When Mickey and Roger are gone it will be extremely gratifying. I go out and do fun activities and eat good meals, but if one day I learn that Roger Goodell died on a toilet in a bondage accident with a Tom Brady inflatable doll, I won't be thinking 'oh no what a terrible thing to happen to such a decent fair upstanding respectable man incapable of corruption' I will be thinking 'he must have popped the Aaron Rodgers doll last week'.
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Old 10-04-2022, 06:55 PM   #57
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We all do process things differently.

When the refs and Roger Goodell are disappointed by the outcome of a Saints win they are proactive and go do something about it and make sure it doesn't happen again.

When Mickey Loomis is disappointed by a bad draft pick or bad high dollar free agent signing he is proactive in his own way. He disposes of as many future draft picks and future cap dollars as possible so there won't be any draft pick or big free agent for people to criticize him over next time, then he restructures and extends the disappointing players contract so that there will be $50 million dead cap if we ever release them, so that holding onto that player can be considered 'smart' point forward once the ink is dry.

I process things in terms of thinking about what should be done if we want to win. So that's frustrating and disappointing only so long as the current regime will not do it, and so long as Roger Goodell is the dictator king of the NFL. When Mickey and Roger are gone it will be extremely gratifying. I go out and do fun activities and eat good meals, but if one day I learn that Roger Goodell died on a toilet in a bondage accident with a Tom Brady inflatable doll, I won't be thinking 'oh no what a terrible thing to happen to such a decent fair upstanding respectable man incapable of corruption' I will be thinking 'he must have popped the Aaron Rodgers doll last week'.
You never cease to amaze me, Bako.

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