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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by leilung Our QB’s by the Numbers... Given that we ALL have our biases based on history, experiences, and what we see, we’ve all drawn our own conclusions as to who we think should be starting QB going ...

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Old 10-26-2022, 03:56 PM   #10
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Re: Week Eight QB Debate

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Our QB’s by the Numbers...

Given that we ALL have our biases based on history, experiences, and what we see, we’ve all drawn our own conclusions as to who we think should be starting QB going forward. I spent a few hours and did a dive into the numbers based on what we have so far in Hill, Dalton, and Winston and was kind of surprised at some of the stats. Before anyone proceeds to tell me that ‘stats don’t tell the whole story’ (and I know it’s coming) understand that stats are just numbers and CAN be manipulated to show a biased outcome. I am merely throwing this out as food for thought.

If you doubt anything I’m posting, feel free to do your own due diligence and counter my findings.

Here we go…

Dalton
4 Games| W-L: 1-3|Avg. Pass Yds: 236| Comp: 63%|Pass TD: 7|Avg. Rush Yds: 7| Rush TD: 0| INT: 4|FL: 1| Avg. QB Rating: 90.5

Hill
9 Games| W-L: 7-2| Avg. Pass Yds. 195| Comp: 69%|Pass TD: 8|Avg. Rush Yds: 46| Rush TD: 4| INT: 7|FL: 1| Avg. QB Rating: 90.8

Winston
10 Games| W-L: 6-4| Avg. Pass Yds. 202| Comp: 61%|Pass TD: 18|Avg. Rush Yds: 24| Rush TD: 1| INT: 8|FL: 1| Avg. QB Rating: 89.7

Things I was surprised by
- Dalton > than Winston in avg. passing yardage /game.
- Hill > Dalton and Winston by a hair in QB Rating when I thought he would be lowest of the 3.
- Winston eclipses Hill and Dalton in passing TD’s by a mile. He also demonstrated the ability to put up strong numbers in spite of passing to mediocre WR’s (Smith, Callaway, Stills, Harty) in 2021 before his season ending injury. (Was this SP’s play calling/ coaching, was something finally clicking with his knowledge of the system, did holding a clipboard for Drew actually rub off or was it some combination of all of it?)
- Win/Loss seems to be something a lot of Hill backers are citing, but to be honest, those stats can be altered by quality of Defense/ Special Teams play which has NOTHING to do with the QB. (Think about Trent Dilfer in the Ravens SB run and you understand that.
So statistically speaking, (given some variables of injuries all around) no one QB really stands out and all 3 are pretty much in a dead heat. It all comes down to the coaches and who they think has best command of the offense I guess.

So now that the discussion is as clear as mud, has anyone changed their mind?
You go with the youngest one and the one with the most natural are talent. Like I said before, Dalton’s career is over. And if you look at the history of his career he throws a lot of interceptions himself. Last week wasn’t a one off. I expect to see more of that the longer the leash gets.
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