Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

AsylumGuido · 12-04-2022, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

You can throw the blame wherever you want all day, but at the end of the day, it's up to the Head Coach to fix the problem(s).

Tell me how the head coach gets the players, coached by perhaps the best offensive line coach in the game today, better than they are being coached by said coach.

Please explain. In detail. I guess I'm slow. What am I missing?

AsylumGuido · 12-04-2022, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I guess Kelce needs coaching cause he fumbled.

Yup. Coach Reid sucks.

Boston Saint · 12-04-2022, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Coach Reid sucks.

No, that’s a reach. He doesn’t suck because his team is still good. But he IS responsible for Kelce’s fumble just like Allen is responsible for Kamara’s fumbles.

AsylumGuido · 12-04-2022, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

No, that’s a reach. He doesn’t suck because his team is still good. But he IS responsible for Kelce’s fumble just like Allen is responsible for Kamara’s fumbles.

This is true. He's also responsible for every individual penalty committed. But, he doesn't suck because his team is winning ... and healthy.

But God forbid he loses 4/5th of his offensive line. Then he'd suck for sure.

Sinner · 12-04-2022, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Tell me how the head coach gets the players, coached by perhaps the best offensive line coach in the game today, better than they are being coached by said coach.

Please explain. In detail. I guess I'm slow. What am I missing?

It's the Head Coach's job to say, "Just keep doing what you're doing". I get it now. Thanks.

AsylumGuido · 12-04-2022, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

It's the Head Coach's job to say, "Just keep doing what you're doing". I get it now. Thanks.

That was during ONE game based upon the game plan. That wasn't a statement on the season. Pay attention to the context of statements.

Sinner · 12-04-2022, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That was during ONE game based upon the game plan. That wasn't a statement on the season. Pay attention to the context of statements.

I get it. Really. DA is the next Vince Lombardi... The next Andy Reid. Thanks.

Rugby Saint II · 12-08-2022, 03:13 PM

We have a talented but injured roster and a head coach who doesn't know how to lead men. That is a recipe for disaster. And a disaster is just what our season has looked like so far!

Rugby Saint II · 12-09-2022, 03:16 PM

If you look at a team that is unorganized, lacks Focus, and performs below expectations then you well probably see a Dennis Allen coached team. At least that is what I see.

I understand Boston's many valid points about Dennis Allen and the multiple injuries we've had along with a backup quarterback leading the team. Although, I still believe that Dennis Allen should have brought in a more Worthy quarterback. Yes, the front office and l both gave Winston the benefit of the doubt. Now I doubt that the front office nor I made a good decision.

With us benching Winston it looks like that was not the right move for a first-year coach to bring ba basically a laughing stock and try to fix him. Sean Payton coached Winston last year and was able to bring out his best. Unfortunately, Dennis Allen does not know how to bring out his players best. How in the world can you lead the NFL in false start penalties? Yes, we have backups out there but they should be motivated to stop the numerous penalties that we have been committing.

K Major · 12-09-2022, 04:15 PM

Saints had more penalties (6-84)
Only 56 total plays (Tampa - 75)
3rd down efficiency was poor (5-14)

But the big stat line for me —> RED ZONE (0-3). Settling for fgs instead of TDs.

It’s the “little” things that get you beat on Sundays.

Details, details.

12-04-2022, 06:48 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Sinner You can throw the blame wherever you want all day, but at the end of the day, it's up to the Head Coach to fix the problem(s). Tell me how the head coach gets the players, coached by perhaps the best offensive line coach in the game today, better than they are being coached by said coach. Please explain. In detail. I guess I'm slow. What am I missing?

12-04-2022, 06:49 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I guess Kelce needs coaching cause he fumbled. Yup. Coach Reid sucks.

12-04-2022, 06:52 PM	#23
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Coach Reid sucks. No, that’s a reach. He doesn’t suck because his team is still good. But he IS responsible for Kelce’s fumble just like Allen is responsible for Kamara’s fumbles.

12-04-2022, 06:54 PM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Boston Saint No, that’s a reach. He doesn’t suck because his team is still good. But he IS responsible for Kelce’s fumble just like Allen is responsible for Kamara’s fumbles. This is true. He's also responsible for every individual penalty committed. But, he doesn't suck because his team is winning ... and healthy. But God forbid he loses 4/5th of his offensive line. Then he'd suck for sure. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Sinner It's the Head Coach's job to say, "Just keep doing what you're doing". I get it now. Thanks. That was during ONE game based upon the game plan. That wasn't a statement on the season. Pay attention to the context of statements.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That was during ONE game based upon the game plan. That wasn't a statement on the season. Pay attention to the context of statements. I get it. Really. DA is the next Vince Lombardi... The next Andy Reid. Thanks.
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12-08-2022, 03:13 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? We have a talented but injured roster and a head coach who doesn't know how to lead men. That is a recipe for disaster. And a disaster is just what our season has looked like so far! Sinner likes this.

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12-09-2022, 04:15 PM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Saints had more penalties (6-84) Only 56 total plays (Tampa - 75) 3rd down efficiency was poor (5-14) But the big stat line for me —> RED ZONE (0-3). Settling for fgs instead of TDs. It’s the “little” things that get you beat on Sundays. Details, details. Boston Saint likes this.