Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

dizzle88 · 12-10-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”.

Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

dizzle88 · 12-10-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

To this I agree. I'm not sure what else could have been done during the season. Replacing an OC midstream could be more problematic than just going with the flow.

K Major · 12-10-2022, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

Don’t worry, Pete C is gone after the season.

But you’re right, it starts with Mr. Allen

12-10-2022, 04:12 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”. Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic. I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game. I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season. Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup. Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

12-10-2022, 04:17 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game. I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season. Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup. Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom. Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this. The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups. And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-10-2022, 04:22 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this. The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups. And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault. And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. Sinner and K Major like this.

12-10-2022, 04:28 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. To this I agree. I'm not sure what else could have been done during the season. Replacing an OC midstream could be more problematic than just going with the flow.

12-10-2022, 04:33 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. Don’t worry, Pete C is gone after the season. But you’re right, it starts with Mr. Allen dizzle88 and Sinner like this.