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Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Saints had more penalties (6-84) Only 56 total plays (Tampa - 75) 3rd down efficiency was poor (5-14) But the big stat line for me —> RED ZONE (0-3). Settling for fgs instead of TDs. ...

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Old 12-09-2022, 04:21 PM   #31
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Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

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Saints had more penalties (6-84)
Only 56 total plays (Tampa - 75)
3rd down efficiency was poor (5-14)

But the big stat line for me —> RED ZONE (0-3). Settling for fgs instead of TDs.

It’s the “little” things that get you beat on Sundays.

Details, details.
Indeed. Like catching passes that hit your hands.
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:26 PM   #32
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Indeed. Like catching passes that hit your hands.
That's a COACHING issue... It's about MOTIVATION... Unless you are suggesting that Receivers at the PROFESSIONAL LEVEL don't know how to catch a football?
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:57 PM   #33
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That's a COACHING issue... It's about MOTIVATION... Unless you are suggesting that Receivers at the PROFESSIONAL LEVEL don't know how to catch a football?
You seem to Be suggesting that receivers at the professional level can’t catch unless a couch motivates them. I disagree. They should do their damn job and catch the damn ball. This isn’t Pop Warner.
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Old 12-09-2022, 04:59 PM   #34
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:00 PM   #35
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You seem to Be suggesting that receivers at the professional level can’t catch unless a couch motivates them. I disagree. They should do their damn job and catch the damn ball. This isn’t Pop Warner.
So they CAN catch! But they don't or won't. Why not? (By the way, I LOVE that you wrote "couch" instead of "coach". Sounds about right).
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So they CAN catch! But they don't or won't. Why not? (By the way, I LOVE that you wrote "couch" instead of "coach". Sounds about right).
An, the old autocorrect insult. Pretty sorry when you have to resort to that.
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An, the old autocorrect insult. Pretty sorry when you have to resort to that.
Don't be insulted by autocorrect. Sometimes it gets it right!
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:16 PM   #38
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If a player requires a coach to motivate them to catch a ball or to keep from moving prior to the snap then it is 100% THAT player's problem. That's something they should have already mastered well before ever becoming a professional.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:26 PM   #39
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If a player requires a coach to motivate them to catch a ball or to keep from moving prior to the snap then it is 100% THAT player's problem. That's something they should have already mastered well before ever becoming a professional.
So you ARE saying that PROFESSIONAL RECEIVERS haven't mastered catching the ball before becoming professional? Or now that they are PROS, they forgot how to catch? Or PROFESSIONAL LINEMEN haven't learned how to keep from moving prior to the snap, well before becoming PROS, or that now that they are PROFESSIONALS, they forgot how to PLAY? And that THESE professional players DON'T require a PROFESSIONAL COACH to motivate them?
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So you ARE saying that PROFESSIONAL RECEIVERS haven't mastered catching the ball before becoming professional? Or now that they are PROFESSIONALS, they forgot how to catch? And that professional players DON'T require a PROFESSIONAL COACH to motivate them?
None of the above. No doubt they can all catch a ball FAR, FAR better than you or I. But, they are human and as humans make mistakes like all of us. Why? Perhaps they are trying too hard to get an edge. But, nothing a coach says at this point of their careers about basic fundamentals should make a difference.

Just look at the Rams. They are have exactly the same issues. I guess in your mind McVay has suddenly forgot how to coach.
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