Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties?

dizzle88 · 12-10-2022, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Someone sounds big mad.

4-9 will do that do you I guess.

Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards.

That's what happens when you run up the gut on first down every time with backup lineman on the left side of the line from center out. It's called abysmal playcalling and untimely injuries.

Boston Saint · 12-10-2022, 03:58 PM

Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”.

Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

dizzle88 · 12-10-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”.

Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game.

I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season.

Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup.

Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom.

Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

dizzle88 · 12-10-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this.

The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups.

And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault.

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

To this I agree. I'm not sure what else could have been done during the season. Replacing an OC midstream could be more problematic than just going with the flow.

Boston Saint · 12-10-2022, 04:29 PM

I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

AsylumGuido · 12-10-2022, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now.

Now that is a truism if I've ever heard one.

K Major · 12-10-2022, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks.

Don’t worry, Pete C is gone after the season.

But you’re right, it starts with Mr. Allen

12-10-2022, 02:26 PM	#51
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by K Major Someone sounds big mad. 4-9 will do that do you I guess. Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards. Sinner likes this.

12-10-2022, 03:43 PM	#52
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Especially running 12 times for a monumental 26 yards. That's what happens when you run up the gut on first down every time with backup lineman on the left side of the line from center out. It's called abysmal playcalling and untimely injuries.

12-10-2022, 03:58 PM	#53
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”. Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic.

12-10-2022, 04:12 PM	#54
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Kamara fumbles and Allen is responsible. “He doesn’t motivate Kamara” and is a bad coach. Kamara isn’t “scared” of Allen like he was Payton. “Payton wouldn’t put up with that. He’d bench him”. Next week, Kamara gets fewer touches. It’s “Allen doesn’t use Kamara enough”. Classic. I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game. I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season. Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup. Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

12-10-2022, 04:17 PM	#55
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I personally wouldn't say Allen didn't use him enough in the last game. I'd say Kamara isn't playing very well and hasn't most of the season. Admittedly, I believe Alvin is a different player when going against the Bucs, Devin White seems to get the better of him in every matchup. Maybe Alvin isn't being used correctly. The whole team is a mess to be fair, top to bottom. Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this. The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups. And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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12-10-2022, 04:22 PM	#56
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Once again, playcalling (repeatedly running up the gut on 1st down) and injuries play a major role in this. The Bucs knew what Carmichael was going to do and White was the beneficiary of the easy play, especially being defended by backups. And, Bingo! Kamara hasn't been being used correctly. That's Carmichael's fault. And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. Sinner and K Major like this.

12-10-2022, 04:28 PM	#57
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. To this I agree. I'm not sure what else could have been done during the season. Replacing an OC midstream could be more problematic than just going with the flow.

12-10-2022, 04:29 PM	#58
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now. AsylumGuido and dizzle88 like this.

12-10-2022, 04:31 PM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I didn’t mean anything dizz. Sorry. Just venting like everyone else here does. If any of us really had the answers we’d be running an NFL team now. Now that is a truism if I've ever heard one. Boston Saint likes this.

12-10-2022, 04:33 PM	#60
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who's responsible for Saints leading the NFL in false start penalties? Originally Posted by dizzle88 And Allen's fault, for letting Carmichael call this offense for 13 straight weeks. Don’t worry, Pete C is gone after the season. But you’re right, it starts with Mr. Allen dizzle88 and Sinner like this.