Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong?

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2022, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

When you go $80 million over the cap or whatever going into every season you often can’t afford to reward great play with a respectable offer or take the short term cap hit to cut underperformers. Every move is dictated by cap considerations and players start to feel like just numbers whose achievements dont matter. So the Andrus Peat’s and Michael Thomas’ who fail to perform get restructed with extensions and more guarantees and guys like CGJ, Williams, and Armstead who do perform get shown the door because there is no cap flexibilty to do the right thing. That is why you can’t live on borrowed money, you kind of end up with a socialist system that does not reward success or punish failure. So Mickey Loomis’ cap management system imploding destroyed team morale when players saw the slackers getting rewarded. The loss of CGJ and the continued high salary of Andrus Peat are cancers to this team. CGJ wanted Peat money for 1000x better than Peat play and the coaches would not even talk to him about it so he got thrown away for scraps and every other player saw that and aspired to be like Peat, which is our 2023 team.

Dennis Allen is either a mediocre or poor coach depending on your judgement of circumstances but either way he is a downgrade from Payton.

They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps.

BakoSaint · 12-14-2022, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps.

The way its stored is such that whenever a star underperforms, we can never cut them, because the cap hit is always $20 million or more, and then in a couple years when its supposed to be the affordable year to finally part ways, the cap hit is still $20 million or more because the contract has been restructured twice in two years.

I get that the money is tangible. If it wasn’t tangible, Andrus Peat could not buy $15 million a year of twinkies and little debbie with it. I get thats its stores in easily convertible structures, much of it in lipids in Peats stomach. I get that its easily convertible, we can convert Michael Thomas to any position and he will be just as effective at long snapper or defensive tackle because he won’t see the fiekd there either. But the one conversion we cant do is converting cutting expensive players like Thomas into cap savings in the near term, because we are carrying bentley loans on pinto players with this wonderful system dreamed up by an ego mad accountant with no football iq.

12-13-2022, 08:33 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by BakoSaint When you go $80 million over the cap or whatever going into every season you often can’t afford to reward great play with a respectable offer or take the short term cap hit to cut underperformers. Every move is dictated by cap considerations and players start to feel like just numbers whose achievements dont matter. So the Andrus Peat’s and Michael Thomas’ who fail to perform get restructed with extensions and more guarantees and guys like CGJ, Williams, and Armstead who do perform get shown the door because there is no cap flexibilty to do the right thing. That is why you can’t live on borrowed money, you kind of end up with a socialist system that does not reward success or punish failure. So Mickey Loomis’ cap management system imploding destroyed team morale when players saw the slackers getting rewarded. The loss of CGJ and the continued high salary of Andrus Peat are cancers to this team. CGJ wanted Peat money for 1000x better than Peat play and the coaches would not even talk to him about it so he got thrown away for scraps and every other player saw that and aspired to be like Peat, which is our 2023 team. Dennis Allen is either a mediocre or poor coach depending on your judgement of circumstances but either way he is a downgrade from Payton. They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps.

12-14-2022, 12:55 AM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,385	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They aren't going over the cap. They are storing it in easily convertible contract structures. It's there and just as tangible as any other team's caps. The way its stored is such that whenever a star underperforms, we can never cut them, because the cap hit is always $20 million or more, and then in a couple years when its supposed to be the affordable year to finally part ways, the cap hit is still $20 million or more because the contract has been restructured twice in two years. I get that the money is tangible. If it wasn’t tangible, Andrus Peat could not buy $15 million a year of twinkies and little debbie with it. I get thats its stores in easily convertible structures, much of it in lipids in Peats stomach. I get that its easily convertible, we can convert Michael Thomas to any position and he will be just as effective at long snapper or defensive tackle because he won’t see the fiekd there either. But the one conversion we cant do is converting cutting expensive players like Thomas into cap savings in the near term, because we are carrying bentley loans on pinto players with this wonderful system dreamed up by an ego mad accountant with no football iq.
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