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Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option. Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one " improved " season. I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office. Story ...

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Old 05-01-2023, 11:39 AM   #1
 
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option.

Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one "improved" season.

I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office.

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https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68084888969216

It appears only ten of the 32 5th year options from the 2020 draft has been exercised. Other teams have until 4:00 eastern, i think, to make their declarations.

2020 pickNameTeamPOS5th yr optionExercisedNot exercised
1Joe BurrowBengalsQB$29,504,000X 
2Chase YoungCommandersEDGE (DE)$17,452,000 X
3Jeff OkudahLionsCB$14,362,000  
4Andrew ThomasGiantsLT (OL)$21,172,000  
5Tua TagovailoaDolphinsQB$25,382,000X 
6Justin HerbertChargersQB$29,504,000X 
7Derrick BrownPanthersIDL (DT)$13,192,000X 
8Isaiah SimmonsCardinalsLB$11,369,000  
9C.J. HendersonPanthersCB$14,362,000  
10Jedrick WillsBrownsLT (OL)$21,172,000X 
11Mekhi BectonJetsRT (OL)$20,239,000  
13Tristan WirfsBuccaneersRT (OL)$18,244,000X 
14Javon Kinlaw49ersIDL (DT)$12,245,000 X
15Jerry JeudyBroncosWR$19,071,000  
16A.J. TerrellFalconsCB$15,724,000X 
17CeeDee LambCowboysWR$17,991,000X 
18Austin JacksonDolphinsRT (OL)$21,172,000  
20K'Lavon ChaissonJaguarsEDGE (DE)$7,114,000  
21Jalen ReagorVikingsWR$19,071,000 X
22Justin JeffersonVikingsWR$19,743,000X 
23Kenneth MurrayChargersLB$9,954,000 X
24Cesar RuizSaintsRG (OL)$21,172,000 X
25Brandon Aiyuk49ersWR$20,639,000X 
26Jordan LovePackersQB$21,770,000  
27Jordyn BrooksSeahawksLB$11,369,000  
28Patrick QueenRavensLB$11,369,000  
30Noah IgbinogheneDolphinsCB$14,362,000  
32Clyde Edwards-HelaireChiefsRB$7,525,000  
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Regardless of how well Ruiz is currently playing, $21 million is pretty steep for 2024. They should be able to extend him for a more reasonable number.
And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.
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And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.
Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.
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You can add Patrick Queen to the growing list of those not getting the option year.

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Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.
In other words, when revenues increase by 10% from one year to another the mandated player salaries must increase by the same percentage. But note, the owner's portion of the revenues also increases by the same percentage. The CBA states that players share of the revenues are 48.8% meaning that the owners get 51.2%. Therefore, when the player's salaries increase the owner's portion of the revenues increase by an even greater amount. No matter how high player salaries climb the league will continues to make even greater profits.
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Why is it coveted? Isn't it just another number?
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Why is it coveted? Isn't it just another number?
Because it hasn't been allowed to be used in the NFL in decades and just became available.. Every other number between 1 and 99 are just another number. Just like the Popeye's Sandwich was so coveted. It only just became available.
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Looks like 2020 wasn't the year for most of the league as far as slam dunk 1st rounders, huh? Basically two thirds of the draftees aren't getting the 5th year option applied. I wonder if the pandemic had something to do with stunted growth and such. There was basically no offseason work for this class for the first two years.

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