Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers

K Major · 01-08-2023, 05:48 PM

No offense but what are y’all expecting to see with “one more year” in Allen??

The man doesn’t have a clue as Head Coach.

TheOak · 01-10-2023, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

No offense but what are y’all expecting to see with “one more year” in Allen??

The man doesn’t have a clue as Head Coach.

Go back and watch the presser when he took took the position. He was asked something along the lines of how long has he waited or thought about being a head coach again.

He replied that he doesn't think about the future. This is why he will never be a successful head coach in the NFL.

What I am seeing is that there is a premise that he is either a new head coach or new to the organization. Typically people new to an organization take the first year to asses what they have before they start making changes which is why they get a second year to implement. Dennis Allen is not a new HC nor is he new to the Saints so he just pissed away his rebuild year.

Sinner · 01-10-2023, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Go back and watch the presser when he took took the position. He was asked something along the lines of how long has he waited or thought about being a head coach again.

He replied that he doesn't think about the future. This is why he will never be a successful head coach in the NFL.

What I am seeing is that there is a premise that he is either a new head coach or new to the organization. Typically people new to an organization take the first year to asses what they have before they start making changes which is why they get a second year to implement. Dennis Allen is not a new HC nor is he new to the Saints so he just pissed away his rebuild year.

"so he just pissed away his rebuild year." <--- Just pissed away OUR year as well. And many Fans are ready to sit through another one.

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2023, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"so he just pissed away his rebuild year." <--- Just pissed away OUR year as well. And many Fans are ready to sit through another one.

If he's still here next season I'll damn well sit through it. If he's not here I'll also sit right there through it. Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over.

I'm just looking forward to every step of the off-season and to whatever happens with the team between now and the preseason. I'm going to continue to find as much pleasure as I can in following the team that I have followed for 55 plus years and take everything else in stride.

I am anxiously awaiting any coaching changes and any current player decisions. I am optimistically looking forward to free agency and the draft. I am looking forward to the final schedule being released so we can begin planning our trips to NOLA for all of the home games. I am looking eagerly forward to all of the good things to do with my Saints in the coming year!

Who Dat!

Sinner · 01-10-2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If he's still here next season I'll damn well sit through it. If he's not here I'll also sit right there through it. Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over.

I'm just looking forward to every step of the off-season and to whatever happens with the team between now and the preseason. I'm going to continue to find as much pleasure as I can in following the team that I have followed for 55 plus years and take everything else in stride.

I am anxiously awaiting any coaching changes and any current player decisions. I am optimistically looking forward to free agency and the draft. I am looking forward to the final schedule being released so we can begin planning our trips to NOLA for all of the home games. I am looking eagerly forward to all of the good things to do with my Saints in the coming year!

Who Dat!

"Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over."

^^^ Guess what? YOU and I have EVERYTHING to do with it. Without the FAN - the CUSTOMER, the DEMAND... There would be no Sport. So you go ahead and look forward to sitting back and having your Life Force pissed away, while multi-millionaires take it all in stride. At least you'll know that you have EVERYTHING to do with that. The rest of us will DEMAND EXCELLENCE (imagine that)

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2023, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over."

^^^ Guess what? YOU and I have EVERYTHING to do with it. Without the FAN - the CUSTOMER, the DEMAND... There would be no Sport. So you go ahead and look forward to sitting back and having your Life Force pissed away, while multi-millionaires take it all in stride. At least you'll know that you have EVERYTHING to do with that. The rest of us will DEMAND EXCELLENCE (imagine that)

Demand all you want. It has no affect. If Gayle wants Loomis, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Loomis wants Allen, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Allen wants Carmichael, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. Etcetera. The real demand remains because the vast majority of fans wants one thing ... games to watch and/or bet on.

My Life Force carries on strongly whether we go 7-10 or win the Super Bowl. I choose not to let anything piss away my Life Force, even if it is something I love as much as my Saints. I'll still drop $15K plus every year to attend games. I'll still spend hours a days checking the "wire" for any news on my beloved team. I'll still throw on any one of my many Saints shirts in the morning and run my errands repping my Black and Gold.

Someday I hope that you too can capture the same sort of passion that can save you wear and tear on your Life Force and still give you the joy of having something special to follow cheerfully ... win, lose, or draw.

Who Dat!

Sinner · 01-10-2023, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Demand all you want. It has no affect. If Gayle wants Loomis, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Loomis wants Allen, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Allen wants Carmichael, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. Etcetera. The real demand remains because the vast majority of fans wants one thing ... games to watch and/or bet on.

My Life Force carries on strongly whether we go 7-10 or win the Super Bowl. I choose not to let anything piss away my Life Force, even if it is something I love as much as my Saints. I'll still drop $15K plus every year to attend games. I'll still spend hours a days checking the "wire" for any news on my beloved team. I'll still throw on any one of my many Saints shirts in the morning and run my errands repping my Black and Gold.

Someday I hope that you too can capture the same sort of passion that can save you wear and tear on your Life Force and still give you the joy of having something special to follow cheerfully ... win, lose, or draw.

Who Dat!

Our piss-poorly-coached team lost the last game of this piss-poor season AT HOME - to a QB that threw for 43 YDS and ZERO TDS and 2 INTERCEPTIONS. You saw it (and evidently enjoyed it) with your own eyes. My passion is to see my team WIN. We're different kind of Fans. "You and I don't have anything to do with it" is the most ridiculous thing a Fan could possibly say.

01-08-2023, 05:48 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers No offense but what are y’all expecting to see with “one more year” in Allen?? The man doesn’t have a clue as Head Coach. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

01-10-2023, 12:20 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by K Major No offense but what are y’all expecting to see with “one more year” in Allen?? The man doesn’t have a clue as Head Coach. Go back and watch the presser when he took took the position. He was asked something along the lines of how long has he waited or thought about being a head coach again. He replied that he doesn't think about the future. This is why he will never be a successful head coach in the NFL. What I am seeing is that there is a premise that he is either a new head coach or new to the organization. Typically people new to an organization take the first year to asses what they have before they start making changes which is why they get a second year to implement. Dennis Allen is not a new HC nor is he new to the Saints so he just pissed away his rebuild year. Sinner and K Major like this.
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01-10-2023, 12:31 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by TheOak Go back and watch the presser when he took took the position. He was asked something along the lines of how long has he waited or thought about being a head coach again. He replied that he doesn't think about the future. This is why he will never be a successful head coach in the NFL. What I am seeing is that there is a premise that he is either a new head coach or new to the organization. Typically people new to an organization take the first year to asses what they have before they start making changes which is why they get a second year to implement. Dennis Allen is not a new HC nor is he new to the Saints so he just pissed away his rebuild year. "so he just pissed away his rebuild year." <--- Just pissed away OUR year as well. And many Fans are ready to sit through another one. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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01-10-2023, 12:51 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by Sinner "so he just pissed away his rebuild year." <--- Just pissed away OUR year as well. And many Fans are ready to sit through another one. If he's still here next season I'll damn well sit through it. If he's not here I'll also sit right there through it. Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over. I'm just looking forward to every step of the off-season and to whatever happens with the team between now and the preseason. I'm going to continue to find as much pleasure as I can in following the team that I have followed for 55 plus years and take everything else in stride. I am anxiously awaiting any coaching changes and any current player decisions. I am optimistically looking forward to free agency and the draft. I am looking forward to the final schedule being released so we can begin planning our trips to NOLA for all of the home games. I am looking eagerly forward to all of the good things to do with my Saints in the coming year! Who Dat!
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

01-10-2023, 12:58 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If he's still here next season I'll damn well sit through it. If he's not here I'll also sit right there through it. Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over. I'm just looking forward to every step of the off-season and to whatever happens with the team between now and the preseason. I'm going to continue to find as much pleasure as I can in following the team that I have followed for 55 plus years and take everything else in stride. I am anxiously awaiting any coaching changes and any current player decisions. I am optimistically looking forward to free agency and the draft. I am looking forward to the final schedule being released so we can begin planning our trips to NOLA for all of the home games. I am looking eagerly forward to all of the good things to do with my Saints in the coming year! Who Dat! "Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over." ^^^ Guess what? YOU and I have EVERYTHING to do with it. Without the FAN - the CUSTOMER, the DEMAND... There would be no Sport. So you go ahead and look forward to sitting back and having your Life Force pissed away, while multi-millionaires take it all in stride. At least you'll know that you have EVERYTHING to do with that. The rest of us will DEMAND EXCELLENCE (imagine that)
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01-10-2023, 03:52 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by Sinner "Guess what? You and I don't have anything to do with it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy worrying about anything I have zero control over." ^^^ Guess what? YOU and I have EVERYTHING to do with it. Without the FAN - the CUSTOMER, the DEMAND... There would be no Sport. So you go ahead and look forward to sitting back and having your Life Force pissed away, while multi-millionaires take it all in stride. At least you'll know that you have EVERYTHING to do with that. The rest of us will DEMAND EXCELLENCE (imagine that) Demand all you want. It has no affect. If Gayle wants Loomis, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Loomis wants Allen, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Allen wants Carmichael, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. Etcetera. The real demand remains because the vast majority of fans wants one thing ... games to watch and/or bet on. My Life Force carries on strongly whether we go 7-10 or win the Super Bowl. I choose not to let anything piss away my Life Force, even if it is something I love as much as my Saints. I'll still drop $15K plus every year to attend games. I'll still spend hours a days checking the "wire" for any news on my beloved team. I'll still throw on any one of my many Saints shirts in the morning and run my errands repping my Black and Gold. Someday I hope that you too can capture the same sort of passion that can save you wear and tear on your Life Force and still give you the joy of having something special to follow cheerfully ... win, lose, or draw. Who Dat!
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

01-10-2023, 04:23 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Observations From the Saints' Loss to the Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Demand all you want. It has no affect. If Gayle wants Loomis, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Loomis wants Allen, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. If Allen wants Carmichael, he stays regardless of what a fan wants. Etcetera. The real demand remains because the vast majority of fans wants one thing ... games to watch and/or bet on. My Life Force carries on strongly whether we go 7-10 or win the Super Bowl. I choose not to let anything piss away my Life Force, even if it is something I love as much as my Saints. I'll still drop $15K plus every year to attend games. I'll still spend hours a days checking the "wire" for any news on my beloved team. I'll still throw on any one of my many Saints shirts in the morning and run my errands repping my Black and Gold. Someday I hope that you too can capture the same sort of passion that can save you wear and tear on your Life Force and still give you the joy of having something special to follow cheerfully ... win, lose, or draw. Who Dat! Our piss-poorly-coached team lost the last game of this piss-poor season AT HOME - to a QB that threw for 43 YDS and ZERO TDS and 2 INTERCEPTIONS. You saw it (and evidently enjoyed it) with your own eyes. My passion is to see my team WIN. We're different kind of Fans. "You and I don't have anything to do with it" is the most ridiculous thing a Fan could possibly say. K Major likes this.
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