What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB?

SmashMouth · 03-03-2023, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think JW's time is all but up in NO. Dennis Allen has given no indication that he will be a part of that QB room for 2023.

But I too want Hooker from this draft class

Roll with who's on the roster , mebbe even bring in Mayfield on the cheap, and go get Hooker AND another in late round pick like the Fresno QB. Let's see who wins out.

K Major · 03-03-2023, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Roll with who's on the roster , mebbe even bring in Mayfield on the cheap, and go get Hooker AND another in late round pick like the Fresno QB. Let's see who wins out.

Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective.

The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys.

2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center.

SmashMouth · 03-03-2023, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective.

The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys.

2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center.

He just might be. He shouldn't costs as much, however.

rezburna · 03-03-2023, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective.

The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys.

2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center.

Baker is more talented than Dalton but his pocket presence is some of the worse I’ve seen. When you’re that short you need to either be a tremendous athlete (early Russell Wilson) or a genius (Drew Brees). If we can’t get Carr and we’re just looking for a guy to hold us over until our rookie is ready then I would just go get Jacoby Brisset or stick with Winston.

SmashMouth · 03-02-2023, 11:06 PM

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halloween 65 · 03-03-2023, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/w7P_NEjddiQ

Maybe? If we don't land Carr, as I said earlier Mayfield wouldn't be a bad option. My argument would be. He's still young, keeps his head down in the study room, coachable, gunslinger, can and able to make all the throws, will come cheap, fits what Allen wants to do to a tee, can read D's and make adjustments, started a lot of games, don't make excusses, a team player. He may not be the fastest but more than capable of running. The guys may not be the most athletic dude in the world but given an O-line to protect him, good rb.'s, and a good TE to go with the WR's we already have + add one, he'll be fine. Guys we might never have another qb, like Brees or Manning just the way it is. But we can have an above the top game manager that can sling the ball around when needed and Mayfield is just that.

K Major · 03-03-2023, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/w7P_NEjddiQ

I somewhat agree with Matt on his take. The Saints want DCarr however he may not want the Saints as much.

Jets, Houston, TB, Carolina, Saints are all QB needy teams & his camp could be hoping to drive up the price.

Saints need to draw a line on compensation and stick to it.

Just pick a team dude

. There needs to be a solid Plan B in place though.

Long-term outlook, the Saints need to find their next QB in the draft.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2023, 09:53 AM

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K Major · 03-04-2023, 09:48 AM

If DCarr signs with us great, if he doesn't great.

Go listen to Matt's (post #255) recent take on After Further Review ... get(draft) a QB on a rookie deal & reset.

Don't overpay for mediocrity.

03-03-2023, 01:07 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,977 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major I think JW's time is all but up in NO. Dennis Allen has given no indication that he will be a part of that QB room for 2023. But I too want Hooker from this draft class Roll with who's on the roster , mebbe even bring in Mayfield on the cheap, and go get Hooker AND another in late round pick like the Fresno QB. Let's see who wins out.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,977 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective. The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys. 2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center. He just might be. He shouldn't costs as much, however.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective. The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys. 2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center. Baker is more talented than Dalton but his pocket presence is some of the worse I’ve seen. When you’re that short you need to either be a tremendous athlete (early Russell Wilson) or a genius (Drew Brees). If we can’t get Carr and we’re just looking for a guy to hold us over until our rookie is ready then I would just go get Jacoby Brisset or stick with Winston.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/w7P_NEjddiQ Maybe? If we don't land Carr, as I said earlier Mayfield wouldn't be a bad option. My argument would be. He's still young, keeps his head down in the study room, coachable, gunslinger, can and able to make all the throws, will come cheap, fits what Allen wants to do to a tee, can read D's and make adjustments, started a lot of games, don't make excusses, a team player. He may not be the fastest but more than capable of running. The guys may not be the most athletic dude in the world but given an O-line to protect him, good rb.'s, and a good TE to go with the WR's we already have + add one, he'll be fine. Guys we might never have another qb, like Brees or Manning just the way it is. But we can have an above the top game manager that can sling the ball around when needed and Mayfield is just that.

03-03-2023, 09:51 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/w7P_NEjddiQ I somewhat agree with Matt on his take. The Saints want DCarr however he may not want the Saints as much. Jets, Houston, TB, Carolina, Saints are all QB needy teams & his camp could be hoping to drive up the price. Saints need to draw a line on compensation and stick to it. Just pick a team dude . There needs to be a solid Plan B in place though. Long-term outlook, the Saints need to find their next QB in the draft.

03-03-2023, 02:41 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Roll with who's on the roster , mebbe even bring in Mayfield on the cheap, and go get Hooker AND another in late round pick like the Fresno QB. Let's see who wins out. Is Baker an upgrade over Dalton though? But I totally get it from the frugality perspective. The Saints need to get this cap in order & roll with the younger guys. 2023 is going to be a serious challenge with or without DCarr under center.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? If DCarr signs with us great, if he doesn't great. Go listen to Matt's (post #255) recent take on After Further Review ... get(draft) a QB on a rookie deal & reset. Don't overpay for mediocrity.