What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB?

halloween 65 · 02-28-2023, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Damn Baker huh? Is he an upgrade over Dalton? Winston? Why did the Panthers move on from him so quickly?

Just appears like his production has gone down over the last couple of seasons.

But hey, what the hell do I know?

I think he would be an upgrade over Dalton. Winston has the raw ability to be really good but Allen for some reason don't seem to care for him. Browns sold the farm for Watson letting Mayfield go to the Panthers. I'm still scratching my head why the Panthers were so quick to let him go. Given time to learn a system and surrounded by enough talent I do think he could be good enough to make things happen. I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of Brees but good enough to win some playoff games. The guy is tough, played hurt, did what was required of him playing for the Browns and crapped on. Get his head back in it, u might find out he's not bad. I don't think talent wise there are to many qb.'s in the league as talented as Winston just thought I would throw that in.

K Major · 02-28-2023, 09:30 AM

I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me.

Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023.

Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc.

Full list

Rugby Saint II · 02-28-2023, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me.

Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023.

Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc.

Full list

If those were the cards available and I was playing poker then I would fold. None of these names are exciting enough for me. I want a leader on the field again.

SmashMouth · 02-28-2023, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me.

Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023.

Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc.

Full list

That's my point. No one is worth bringing in for 35 million per. We can be average with what we have already. Let's draft a QB or two and see what we can do there.

K Major · 02-28-2023, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

That's my point. No one is worth bringing in for 35 million per. We can be average with what we have already. Let's draft a QB or two and see what we can do there.

Long term, this is the only solution at QB.

The draft. Ask KC or Philly.

saintsfan1976 · 02-28-2023, 10:30 AM

In my mind it's
A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3
or
B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want
or
C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft

K Major · 02-28-2023, 10:42 AM

Speaking of QBs, I see the Falcons released Marcus Mariotta to save 12M.

If Winston isn't your guy, let him geaux too.

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

In my mind it's
A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3
or
B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want
or
C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft

The hang up for me with those options is the inclusion of the name Dalton. I don't want him anywhere near the Saints roster again. Do a find and replace with the name Winston and I could be onboard.

SmashMouth · 02-28-2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

In my mind it's
A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3
or
B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want
or
C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft

You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract.

If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year.

K Major · 02-28-2023, 10:46 AM

If Sean was still coaching, keeping Jameis in 2023 is a no-brainer.

But with Heckle and Jeckle running this team, naw.

02-28-2023, 08:14 AM	#221
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major Damn Baker huh? Is he an upgrade over Dalton? Winston? Why did the Panthers move on from him so quickly? Just appears like his production has gone down over the last couple of seasons. But hey, what the hell do I know? I think he would be an upgrade over Dalton. Winston has the raw ability to be really good but Allen for some reason don't seem to care for him. Browns sold the farm for Watson letting Mayfield go to the Panthers. I'm still scratching my head why the Panthers were so quick to let him go. Given time to learn a system and surrounded by enough talent I do think he could be good enough to make things happen. I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of Brees but good enough to win some playoff games. The guy is tough, played hurt, did what was required of him playing for the Browns and crapped on. Get his head back in it, u might find out he's not bad. I don't think talent wise there are to many qb.'s in the league as talented as Winston just thought I would throw that in. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

02-28-2023, 09:30 AM	#222
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,067 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me. Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023. Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc. Full list SmashMouth likes this.

02-28-2023, 09:52 AM	#223
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me. Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023. Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc. Full list If those were the cards available and I was playing poker then I would fold. None of these names are exciting enough for me. I want a leader on the field again. SmashMouth, cmike and K Major like this.

02-28-2023, 10:10 AM	#224
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,111 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by K Major I'd rather bring Teddy B back if the DCarr signs elsewhere. I wouldn't sign a middle-of-the-pack QB to 35M but that's just me. Here is the list of available FA QBs for 2023. Carr, Wentz, Mariota, Mayfield, Darnold, Garoppolo, DJones, Rudolph, etc. Full list That's my point. No one is worth bringing in for 35 million per. We can be average with what we have already. Let's draft a QB or two and see what we can do there. K Major likes this.

02-28-2023, 10:18 AM	#225
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,067 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth That's my point. No one is worth bringing in for 35 million per. We can be average with what we have already. Let's draft a QB or two and see what we can do there. Long term, this is the only solution at QB. The draft. Ask KC or Philly. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,549 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? In my mind it's A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3 or B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want or C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft

02-28-2023, 10:42 AM	#227
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,067 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Speaking of QBs, I see the Falcons released Marcus Mariotta to save 12M. If Winston isn't your guy, let him geaux too.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 In my mind it's A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3 or B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want or C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft The hang up for me with those options is the inclusion of the name Dalton. I don't want him anywhere near the Saints roster again. Do a find and replace with the name Winston and I could be onboard.

02-28-2023, 10:44 AM	#229
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,111 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 In my mind it's A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3 or B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want or C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract. If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year.

02-28-2023, 10:46 AM	#230
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,067 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? If Sean was still coaching, keeping Jameis in 2023 is a no-brainer. But with Heckle and Jeckle running this team, naw. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.