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I've said it all along - we are better with MT than without.

As a fan, I'm just over it all - the same way I'm over guys like Peat...

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Tend to agree. Nonerheless there is a part of me that secretly wants him to make up for his lack of playing and earn the rest of his contract .

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Can't get those years of production(lack of) back. i think he's a very talented guy but his contract and being consistanly hurt( his fault or not) makes me want to replace him. i not looking for a game changer like he can be but someone who has the ability to produce well when his # is called and can stay healthy and comes way cheaper. A good 2nd rounder this year would do well with what we have now.

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I suppose that most of us feel this way. The guy is a terrific WR. No one but Thomas knows if he's giving 100% effort or if he got his money and mailed it in. Signs point to mailing it in when he made himself unavailable to the organization of which he is employed but again, no one but Thomas knows where his heart is.

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Sweetest a$$ and hands to ever warm a bench. Dude is a hype-othesis.

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This^^^^^

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Tell your coaching staff to not encourage injured guys to play through it for other players careers

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Michael Thomas retweeted this on February 10th.

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Players want more guaranteed money in their contracts.

I wonder if enough stats exist to present an argument that players are held out more often today due to load management, etc.

Can't have it both ways.

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L'arte Imita La Vita! see and or read "North Dallas Forty"
It was happening then and it is still happening!! Cry me a river!!
Little Known Trivia: Did You Know?

The NFL didn't take kindly to those who participated in the making of "North Dallas Forty." Hall of Famer Tom Fears, who advised on the movie's football action, had a scouting contract with three NFL teams -- all were canceled after the film opened, reported Leavy and Tony Kornheiser in a Sept. 6, 1979, Washington Post article. And the Raiders severed ties with Fred Biletnikoff, who coached Nolte. "Freddy was not even asked back to camp," writes Gent. Tommy Reamon, who played Delma, was cut by the 49ers after the film came out, and said he had been "blackballed."

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MT was my favorite WR in the league. 2nd favorite all time only second to Colston. I would love for him to stay its just hard to tell if he really wants to be in NO.

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The way some of the cruel fanbase has treated him I can see why he may not want to stay.

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One thing that's guaranteed ,MT don't play thru anything. Mahomes just played with an injury, many players do. MT's not special, he can easily be replaced. Ever see one go back to the locker room and come back looking fine.MT hasn't come close to actually earning his contract money, there are players that can and will actually earn their money. I can't wait to see this guy go and get his replacement. What if's don't work for me. Waiting 3 years don't work for me either. He can sell popcorn in the stands for all I care. Just get rid of his no production a$$!!

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I’m convinced that most of the (_________fill in the blank)comes from Mike’s contact.
He earned that contract and got hurt. I’ve NEVER seen him give nothing but 100% on the field. It has to be the money. Nothing else makes sense.
Missing all but what 3 games this season and he still was our 3rd most productive WR ( sorry Landry).

Mahomes plays QB. Totally different skill set than WR. Pat said it himself, his long run in the SB would have never been possible if he had to make cuts.
Not sure how productive MT would have been running go routes all season.
On a surgically repaired foot. He's dealing with an injury that has ended the careers of some great players.

I’m just not sure how much longer we wait, to get what we’ve paid for.

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Thought D'Jean Dixon was the second coming of Colston ... Will the new coaches play him more?

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Perhaps the coaches actually see him practice every day and have gained a slightly less lofty impression of his abilities. It wouldn't be the first time a preseason wonderkid couldn't make the real cut.

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Just did some quick research.

Dai’Jean Dixon

He's on our books as $3,334 of dead cap. About the value of a 2008 Chevy Impala.

Sorry. Maybe the XFL will look at him.

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God I wish but nobody is going to give us squat.

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Colston was a rare breed. Remember, right out of rookie training camp he made an immediate impact at the position.

Dai'Jean needs a lot of work.

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You can’t guard Mike but his ankle brace has been all over him. He’s done as a saint

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He was fully recovered from the ankle before last season. It was the toe of the opposite leg that had surgery last season. I guess your joke fell as incomplete as Dalton's throw to a wide open receiver. ;)

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Dalton would have had to throw to the bench or the sauna to hit an open mike, and that wouldn't even be a football, just cash. That's no joke.

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You wonder why Michael Thomas doesn't trust the Saints medical team? If JP was still around he'd have a few things to say about that crew.

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drop the thug as well.... no pay either.

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Can't solely pin it on the Saints.

Did the Saints condone his temp digs in L.A. at $60k per month with his separate circle of doctors? Did that make a difference?

Did Drew trust the Saints doctors? Was Brees ever out for going on three years after an injury?

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This little piggy went to market. That little piggy went home. None of the little piggies went to 40 of the last 50 games. Michael Thomas has some eccentricities, as do most successful receivers, but the issue is he can't stay healthy, and there is virtually no precedent for a player being injured this much for this long and becoming reliable again. At best he is a JJ Watt or Jimmy Garappalo of receivers, at worst he is a Jahvid Best or Chad Pennington of receivers. Either way it would be foolish for a team that is not close to a ring to pay big money for highly risky depth at WR when we have two good young receivers and need to clean up our cap and get younger elsewhere on the roster. As he is now, Thomas is not worth more than $6-8 million a year as a lottery ticket.

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We've been questioning the Saints medical team for years. Ochsner Hospital could be at fault if that's where all the team doctors come from. Didn't we purge our medical staff a few years back? We've lost several players to misdiagnosed injuries over the years. Didn't Delvin Breaux sue the medical team?

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Interesting that you brought that up. Drew Brees did NOT trust the Saints doctors. When he injured his thumb he went to Dr. Steven Shin who is the director of hand surgery at Cedars-Sinai Kerlan-Jobe Institute in Los Angeles. Dr. Shin performed the surgery and oversaw Brees' recovery process.

As for being out three years, Smash, Thomas did not miss three years due to a single injury. He missed less than a year with the first high ankle injury. Then due to complications from surgery (you can thank the Saints doctors for that one) he required a second surgery and missed about eight more months. Then he suffered a totally unrelated injury to the toe of the foot on the opposite leg requiring yet another surgery. He has missed the remainder of his time to this third incident.

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Honestly, if I was an NFL player I would not leave any medical decisions to the team's doctors. The team is not looking out for the welfare of the individual player. They are only looking out for the welfare of the team. I would always go outside of the team with any medical question and get a second and even a third opinion. If the independent medical experts tell me to forgo immediate surgery and try a less aggressive solution first I would without question.

The long term health of the player should always be his own top concern.

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"Sittin' in the mornin' sun
I'll be sittin' when the evenin' comes
Watching the ships roll in
Then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh
I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time..."

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A botched surgery and a misdiagnosed toe injury. Maybe it's time for some fans to take a step back and consider that the issues with Thomas fall directly on the team instead of the player.

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"Sittin' in the mornin' sun
I'll be sittin' when the evenin' comes
Watching the ships roll in
Then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh
I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time..."

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This is why we need to rebuild. First step should be to fire our medical team, get a medical team in Houston or something that is top notch, buy a team plane, have the Houston team direct our medical operations with only the basics occuring in New Orleans. Then we should look at our players like Thomas, Peat, and Hill who have been injured repeatedly like they are houses with big mortgages that have been extensively renovated by Tim Allen's character from Home Improvement, which is essentially what the Saints doctors are. We should not want to keep those houses. We should especially not want to have big mortages on those houses. Things are going to break, and taking out second mortgages to cover the repairs will not be a good investment. Its not that the houses want to break, its that the contractor was a disaster and now there are cracks hiding beneath the sheet rock. If you know the Saints doctors are bad, then you have to realize our previously injured players who have been treated by them the most are now essentially products of their work. Let the Falcons pay for those products. Let the Bucs and Panthers pay for those products. Cut them loose, whatever it takes, the doctors and their handiwork.

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Yet you keep referring to them as "MY SAINTS" Enjoy "YOUR UPCOMING LAWSUIT"

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Yes. My Saints. And if there is a lawsuit then so be it. Maybe the haters will finally realize they have been seriously misjudging Michael Thomas all along.

But maybe not. You know what they say ... hater's gonna hate.

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Turf toe.... is the JOKE....

Cut Bait :beatnik:

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.... and idiots will continue to be idiots :beatnik:

besides.... no hate... just reality. :bng:

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I've had turf toe since College. It's no joke.:duel:

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Yup. That was the misdiagnoses I believe on Thomas. Rumors were the Saints doctors said it was turf toe, which as most informed people know can be serious in itself, but it was actually a dislocation which can be far more serious.

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