Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 971035) Guido reminds me of my old college roommate. He was an accountant who had a dry personality and was only interested in facts and pertinent information. He was also the only guy that ever asked if he could date my ex girl friend before he asked her out and I respected that.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 971064) NFL Rumors: Michael Thomas, Saints Making Progress in Contract Talks After Carr Deal

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971065) I mean the progress should be Thomas accepting a pay cut. Why now Carr is here, would Thomas magically get healthy after being out for nearly 3 seasons?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 971066) So are you saying since DCarr is now in the building @ QB, Can't call Mike has every intent on balling in 2023 but had no "interest" in playing with Dalton and/or Winston last season :p?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 971066) So are you saying since DCarr is now in the building @ QB, Can't call Mike has every intent on balling in 2023 but had no "interest" in playing with Dalton and/or Winston last season :p?

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971067) Lol just tempering expectations I think, maybe my own, but either way :) Just rubs me up the wrong way that Thomas / his agent actually gets a say in contract negotiations, when he's been absent for 42 games in the last 3 years.

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 971069) Yeah that contract would be on the skinny side if I'm Loomy. Little to no production in 3 years should = little paychecks. Might add some incentives to try to keep him out of the tub and on the field for a change. If he don't want to do it that way, don't let the door knob hit u in the a$$ on ur way out. I really would rather draft a wr in the 2nd. Cap hit or not, I'm over that dude.

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 971068) Im also ok if they trade him for Derrick Henry and draft a stud receiver in the first round…

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971065) I mean the progress should be Thomas accepting a pay cut. Why now Carr is here, would Thomas magically get healthy after being out for nearly 3 seasons?

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971067) Lol just tempering expectations I think, maybe my own, but either way :) Just rubs me up the wrong way that Thomas / his agent actually gets a say in contract negotiations, when he's been absent for 42 games in the last 3 years.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 971071) 100% agreed. Incentives is the way to go, knowing our luck they'll give him a 56M contract like Peat got after he nearly ended Brees' career.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 971077) Maybe Thomas thanked Jesus for Carr’s signing not because of any plans to produce on the field with Carr, but because he realized the Saints absorbing Carr’s contract would make the Saints unable to afford the cap hit to cut Thomas and would force the Saints to negotiate a long term deal to continue paying Thomas to sit on the sidelines. Thank You Jesus for the leverage to continue to be paid $10 million or more a year for nothing when he should be playing golf with Victor Cruz and Terrelle Pryor on his own dime.

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 971092) Well there’s a lot of speculation on CGM due to some of his actions, and understandably so, however I feel comfortable saying this… 1- he’s a fierce competitor and a stud when healthy and he knows it. He’d much rather be on the field doing what he loves and making defenders look silly. 2- I haven’t seen or read anywhere he’s a locker room cancer despite his altercation with Chauncey in practice. This organization has proven they will not tolerate locker room cancers. 3- His injuries were un-preventable and unfortunate and when healthy, he no doubt makes our offensive more dangerous. That being said, hopefully this contract is much better for the team and incentive heavy

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 971088) It is vital for them to have a say. That's what makes it a "negotiation". The ONLY way to rewrite the terms of the contract is to have the player agree to any new terms.

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From the article:

Thomas and Carr were standout high school recruits from similar stomping-grounds in Southern California (Thomas attended William Howard Taft Charter High School in Los Angeles while Carr was two hours away at Bakersfield Christian High School in Fresno). Though Thomas is expected to be released at the start of the new league year on March 15, it’s interesting that he was helping to recruit Carr and celebrated the quarterback’s decision to sign with New Orleans.

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 971135) Thielen was just cut by the Vikings. 🤔

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 971162) Yup. The only way they know to "manage the cap". They haven't caught on yet. They use the "cut your best players" philosophy instead of the "keep your players" strategy of recovering cap space. :doh:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 971163) I’ve also noticed a lot of teams don’t structure their contracts how we do to even have that option available to them.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 971167) Nope. But over the past few years those structures are beginning to pop up. I'm starting to see more and more roster bonuses being written into new deals and more 2nd and 3rd inflated salaries that can be converted. But, yes, there's still several that haven't bitten the bullet yet.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 971170) Yep. Khai Harley's accounting methods are being implemented all over the NFL now. Those roster bonuses are the killer if you pay off the entire debt at the end of the contract. Which is how we roll. If Gayle wasn't willing to write the checks though, this wouldn't work. It may be the reason for several notoriously cheap franchises not adopting the newest NFL model of living on the credit card and worrying about the bills when they come due.

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From the Derek Carr interview today:

MICHAEL THOMAS PRAISE: Carr spoke with Michael Thomas before getting here, and said that the first time he talked to him that Thomas didn't want to get off the phone. He it was a big part of the process, but talked about getting to work. Those two got close in the process of talking, and it's now no longer a coincidence of what Thomas tweeted out following the signing.

Carr told Mickey Loomis, "You talk to Mike Thomas and you feel like you two can go out and face the world." He added that he loves this guy and that he's so competitive.

"I told my wife when I got off the phone, and she was like, ‘Why are you smiling?’ And I was like, ‘I love this guy!’ He’s so competitive. Just the energy that he brings, it would be very exciting times to throw him the football. When he started recruiting and talking to me, he wasn’t even trying to recruit me, he was just like, ‘When are we getting to work, we’re wasting time, time is ticking.’ I was like, dude, I’m the same way. We’ll get there. But I think that our relationship has grown through the process, and I’m looking forward to hopefully making that relationship grow even stronger."

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This sure doesn't sound like someone content to sit on the sideline cashing checks for doing nothing as a few persons incorrectly assume.

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 971197) Usually when the starting QB wants you and gives you high praise, the QB gets what he wants.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 971280) He's had surgery & 2nd opinion. MT is good to go for the 2023 season right? Ready to win that comeback player of the year award? DCarr can't throw them and catch them.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 971340) https://twitter.com/Kat_Terrell/stat...98834381602832 https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...98528436486161

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