OK Then... New Biggest Need

AsylumGuido · 03-17-2023, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I agree we need DL help, but like last year we are hoping Thomas plays. I’m hoping, but doubtful. Another offensive weapon is what’s needed most IMHO.

I have no doubt that Thomas will play and play well, but I think the real question that most have is will he avoid yet another totally unrelated injury. Only the good Lord can answer that question.

mapcow · 03-18-2023, 11:53 AM

An actual coach. D Allen stayed true to his head coach form, back when Sean Peyton was suspended in 2012- Allen's record 4-12 (Raiders) jump to the present, still losing.... as he has so eloquently demonstrated. True to form.

See for yourself. Here are Allen’s records through nine games in each of his four stints as a head coach in the NFL:

2012 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12)
2013 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12)
2014 Raiders: 0-9 (Allen was fired after starting 0-4, and the Raiders finished at 3-13 without him)
2022 Saints: 7-10

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...history-stats/

rezburna · 03-18-2023, 02:17 PM

I’d like to add OBJ.

K Major · 03-20-2023, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d like to add OBJ.

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

rezburna · 03-20-2023, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

BakoSaint · 03-20-2023, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker.

SmashMouth · 03-20-2023, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Edit ** it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark.

They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore.

If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid.

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

But....but....We are supposed to win the NFC South! How dare they try to be competitive!

Originally Posted by rezburna

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker.

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

subguy · 03-22-2023, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too.

Inclined to agree

Rugby Saint II · 03-18-2023, 02:31 PM

DT is my top priority. Followed closely by OG. Preferably Cyrus Torrence. DE is also a big need. Maybe a speedster who can chase down mobile QB's. Tajae spears in the third round is my one must have though. I see him as an eventual AK replacement and filling in for six games or so. This is supposed to be a deep TE draft, so I want one of those too.

AsylumGuido · 03-18-2023, 03:38 PM

From the link above:

Saints college scouting director Jeff Ireland was a fan of his coming out of Baton Rouge, and Moreau was a favorite target of Derek Carr with the Raiders — he averaged 2.6 and 3.6 targets per game the last two years.

This doesn’t mean that a signing is imminent, but it would make a lot of sense. Moreau is a competent blocker who could push Adam Trautman down into a role more focused on what he does best (paving the way on run plays) while complementing Juwan Johnson as the lead tight end. Having Johnson handle the lion’s share of receiving duties while Moreau chips in as both a receiver and blocker, being more of an all-around player, could be a nice addition to the offense.

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03-17-2023, 03:15 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Boston Saint I agree we need DL help, but like last year we are hoping Thomas plays. I’m hoping, but doubtful. Another offensive weapon is what’s needed most IMHO. I have no doubt that Thomas will play and play well, but I think the real question that most have is will he avoid yet another totally unrelated injury. Only the good Lord can answer that question.

03-18-2023, 11:53 AM	#2
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need An actual coach. D Allen stayed true to his head coach form, back when Sean Peyton was suspended in 2012- Allen's record 4-12 (Raiders) jump to the present, still losing.... as he has so eloquently demonstrated. True to form. See for yourself. Here are Allen’s records through nine games in each of his four stints as a head coach in the NFL: 2012 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12) 2013 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12) 2014 Raiders: 0-9 (Allen was fired after starting 0-4, and the Raiders finished at 3-13 without him) 2022 Saints: 7-10 https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...history-stats/
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03-18-2023, 02:17 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need I’d like to add OBJ.

03-20-2023, 10:00 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I’d like to add OBJ. I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

03-20-2023, 01:27 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead. I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

03-20-2023, 04:24 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though. We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker. subguy likes this.
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03-20-2023, 05:49 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major Edit it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark. They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore. If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid. Originally Posted by K Major I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark*? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II* But....but....We are supposed to win the NFC South! How dare they try to be competitive! Originally Posted by rezburna I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though. Originally Posted by BakoSaint We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker. Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

03-22-2023, 05:35 AM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by BakoSaint We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. Inclined to agree

03-18-2023, 02:31 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need DT is my top priority. Followed closely by OG. Preferably Cyrus Torrence. DE is also a big need. Maybe a speedster who can chase down mobile QB's. Tajae spears in the third round is my one must have though. I see him as an eventual AK replacement and filling in for six games or so. This is supposed to be a deep TE draft, so I want one of those too. WW_Who_Dat and rezburna like this.

03-18-2023, 03:38 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Twitter Twitter Twitter From the link above: Saints college scouting director Jeff Ireland was a fan of his coming out of Baton Rouge, and Moreau was a favorite target of Derek Carr with the Raiders — he averaged 2.6 and 3.6 targets per game the last two years. This doesn’t mean that a signing is imminent, but it would make a lot of sense. Moreau is a competent blocker who could push Adam Trautman down into a role more focused on what he does best (paving the way on run plays) while complementing Juwan Johnson as the lead tight end. Having Johnson handle the lion’s share of receiving duties while Moreau chips in as both a receiver and blocker, being more of an all-around player, could be a nice addition to the offense. rezburna and Mr.Riaton like this.
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