OK Then... New Biggest Need

K Major · 03-17-2023, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

How would you feel trading our first this year and a pick next year to move up for him, being we have several extra picks next year?
We could always go FA next year too

No sir I wouldn't.

The only player that I'd be interested in trading up for is DT Jalen Carter. I think the kid will be next-level special.

There are some good Day 2 o-line prospects that could become quality starters.

mapcow · 03-18-2023, 12:53 PM

An actual coach. D Allen stayed true to his head coach form, back when Sean Peyton was suspended in 2012- Allen's record 4-12 (Raiders) jump to the present, still losing.... as he has so eloquently demonstrated. True to form.

See for yourself. Here are Allen’s records through nine games in each of his four stints as a head coach in the NFL:

2012 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12)
2013 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12)
2014 Raiders: 0-9 (Allen was fired after starting 0-4, and the Raiders finished at 3-13 without him)
2022 Saints: 7-10

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...history-stats/

rezburna · 03-18-2023, 03:17 PM

I’d like to add OBJ.

Rugby Saint II · 03-18-2023, 03:31 PM

DT is my top priority. Followed closely by OG. Preferably Cyrus Torrence. DE is also a big need. Maybe a speedster who can chase down mobile QB's. Tajae spears in the third round is my one must have though. I see him as an eventual AK replacement and filling in for six games or so. This is supposed to be a deep TE draft, so I want one of those too.

AsylumGuido · 03-18-2023, 04:38 PM

From the link above:

Saints college scouting director Jeff Ireland was a fan of his coming out of Baton Rouge, and Moreau was a favorite target of Derek Carr with the Raiders — he averaged 2.6 and 3.6 targets per game the last two years.

This doesn’t mean that a signing is imminent, but it would make a lot of sense. Moreau is a competent blocker who could push Adam Trautman down into a role more focused on what he does best (paving the way on run plays) while complementing Juwan Johnson as the lead tight end. Having Johnson handle the lion’s share of receiving duties while Moreau chips in as both a receiver and blocker, being more of an all-around player, could be a nice addition to the offense.

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K Major · 03-18-2023, 06:45 PM

LB depth

Pete is a solid player but he has been knicked up. We all know Demario is a dawg but father NEVER lose.

Do you really trust Baun & an unproven rookie (DJackson) to
fill in if our starters go down?

Yep, quality LB depth is necessary.

saintsfan1976 · 03-19-2023, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

LB depth

Pete is a solid player but he has been knicked up. We all know Demario is a dawg but father NEVER lose.

Do you really trust Baun & an unproven rookie (DJackson) to
fill in if our starters go down?

Yep, quality LB depth is necessary.

LB. Agreed. Eliss left a void Baun isn't suited to fill.

WR - either draft or vet.

S - draft

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2023, 10:44 AM

K Major · 03-20-2023, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d like to add OBJ.

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

K Major · 03-20-2023, 01:39 PM

Edit ** it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark.

They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore.

If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid.

03-17-2023, 04:18 PM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton How would you feel trading our first this year and a pick next year to move up for him, being we have several extra picks next year? We could always go FA next year too No sir I wouldn't. The only player that I'd be interested in trading up for is DT Jalen Carter. I think the kid will be next-level special. There are some good Day 2 o-line prospects that could become quality starters. SmashMouth and Mr.Riaton like this.

03-18-2023, 12:53 PM	#12
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need An actual coach. D Allen stayed true to his head coach form, back when Sean Peyton was suspended in 2012- Allen's record 4-12 (Raiders) jump to the present, still losing.... as he has so eloquently demonstrated. True to form. See for yourself. Here are Allen’s records through nine games in each of his four stints as a head coach in the NFL: 2012 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12) 2013 Raiders: 3-6 (finished 4-12) 2014 Raiders: 0-9 (Allen was fired after starting 0-4, and the Raiders finished at 3-13 without him) 2022 Saints: 7-10 https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...history-stats/
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03-18-2023, 03:17 PM	#13
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need I’d like to add OBJ.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need DT is my top priority. Followed closely by OG. Preferably Cyrus Torrence. DE is also a big need. Maybe a speedster who can chase down mobile QB's. Tajae spears in the third round is my one must have though. I see him as an eventual AK replacement and filling in for six games or so. This is supposed to be a deep TE draft, so I want one of those too. WW_Who_Dat and rezburna like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Twitter Twitter Twitter From the link above: Saints college scouting director Jeff Ireland was a fan of his coming out of Baton Rouge, and Moreau was a favorite target of Derek Carr with the Raiders — he averaged 2.6 and 3.6 targets per game the last two years. This doesn’t mean that a signing is imminent, but it would make a lot of sense. Moreau is a competent blocker who could push Adam Trautman down into a role more focused on what he does best (paving the way on run plays) while complementing Juwan Johnson as the lead tight end. Having Johnson handle the lion’s share of receiving duties while Moreau chips in as both a receiver and blocker, being more of an all-around player, could be a nice addition to the offense. rezburna and Mr.Riaton like this.
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03-18-2023, 06:45 PM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need LB depth Pete is a solid player but he has been knicked up. We all know Demario is a dawg but father NEVER lose. Do you really trust Baun & an unproven rookie (DJackson) to fill in if our starters go down? Yep, quality LB depth is necessary. subguy, leilung, saintsfan1976 and 2 others like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major LB depth Pete is a solid player but he has been knicked up. We all know Demario is a dawg but father NEVER lose. Do you really trust Baun & an unproven rookie (DJackson) to fill in if our starters go down? Yep, quality LB depth is necessary. LB. Agreed. Eliss left a void Baun isn't suited to fill. WR - either draft or vet. S - draft subguy likes this.

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03-20-2023, 11:00 AM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I’d like to add OBJ. I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

03-20-2023, 01:39 PM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Edit it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND** Chark. They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore. If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid. subguy likes this.