OK Then... New Biggest Need

K Major · 03-20-2023, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d like to add OBJ.

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

rezburna · 03-20-2023, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

BakoSaint · 03-20-2023, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker.

SmashMouth · 03-20-2023, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Edit ** it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark.

They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore.

If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid.

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark?

Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z.

I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag.

Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

But....but....We are supposed to win the NFC South! How dare they try to be competitive!

Originally Posted by rezburna

I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker.

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

K Major · 03-20-2023, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

Where do you have Can't Call Mike ranked as of now

?

He hasn't played a full season of football in years and he's 30. I see his "tweets" but hadn't seen any highlights of him working out, cutting, or catching passes

.

And yeah, Landry looks close to being done.

rezburna · 03-21-2023, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

I think OBJ is far from washed. The last time we saw him he was in the Super Bowl dominating. Looked like he was about to win the MVP. I also don't think youth is always the answer. Two of our starting WR's are second year guys. We may benefit from veteran leadership. I see us drafting a WR and bringing a few guys in in UDFA like you said, but we could definitely benefit from bringing in guys that we know can play now.

Boston Saint · 03-21-2023, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think OBJ is far from washed. The last time we saw him he was in the Super Bowl dominating. Looked like he was about to win the MVP. I also don't think youth is always the answer. Two of our starting WR's are second year guys. We may benefit from veteran leadership. I see us drafting a WR and bringing a few guys in in UDFA like you said, but we could definitely benefit from bringing in guys that we know can play now.

The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap?

The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2023, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap?

The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players.

Yup. The type of injuries we have been experiencing have nothing to do with conditioning or such. It's simply been bad luck. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time AND to key individual players. In fact I read that our soft tissue numbers are way down. That's on the Saints' Dr. Matt Rhea.

Rugby Saint II · 03-21-2023, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

subguy · 03-22-2023, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future.

I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience .

If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there.

03-20-2023, 10:00 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I’d like to add OBJ. I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead.

03-20-2023, 01:27 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead. I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though.

03-20-2023, 04:24 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,424	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though. We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker. subguy likes this.
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03-20-2023, 05:49 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major Edit it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark. They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore. If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid. Originally Posted by K Major I'd be interested to know if the Saints are even interested in acquiring D.J. Chark*? Five seasons in, he's gained more bulk & is still quick. Slightly bigger taller than Mike T (could play the X as back up) & can play @ the Z. I think he'd be a "safer" choice at WR without the costly price tag. Last I heard, Odell's camp is asking anywhere from 4-8M. Big risk on a 30 year old with two torn ACL's. Dallas was interested however Jerrah decided to trade for B Cooks instead. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II* But....but....We are supposed to win the NFC South! How dare they try to be competitive! Originally Posted by rezburna I haven’t seen us linked to Chark. The Panthers are though. In comparison, I rather do a 1 year deal with OBJ because he’s so much better than Chark at practically everything and they’re both injury prone. I doubt we get either though. Originally Posted by BakoSaint We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. If we have money to spend we should have spent it cutting Thomas or Peat and replacing them with someone healthy and young. If we have a few million to spend it could make more sense to get a healthy oline, TE, or a linebacker. Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

03-20-2023, 06:05 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA. Where do you have Can't Call Mike ranked as of now ? He hasn't played a full season of football in years and he's 30. I see his "tweets" but hadn't seen any highlights of him working out, cutting, or catching passes . And yeah, Landry looks close to being done. subguy likes this.

03-21-2023, 11:27 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA. I think OBJ is far from washed. The last time we saw him he was in the Super Bowl dominating. Looked like he was about to win the MVP. I also don't think youth is always the answer. Two of our starting WR's are second year guys. We may benefit from veteran leadership. I see us drafting a WR and bringing a few guys in in UDFA like you said, but we could definitely benefit from bringing in guys that we know can play now. turbo_dog, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

03-21-2023, 11:49 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I think OBJ is far from washed. The last time we saw him he was in the Super Bowl dominating. Looked like he was about to win the MVP. I also don't think youth is always the answer. Two of our starting WR's are second year guys. We may benefit from veteran leadership. I see us drafting a WR and bringing a few guys in in UDFA like you said, but we could definitely benefit from bringing in guys that we know can play now. The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap? The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

03-21-2023, 01:02 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Boston Saint The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap? The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players. Yup. The type of injuries we have been experiencing have nothing to do with conditioning or such. It's simply been bad luck. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time AND to key individual players. In fact I read that our soft tissue numbers are way down. That's on the Saints' Dr. Matt Rhea.

03-21-2023, 03:18 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA. I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

03-22-2023, 05:47 AM	#10
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me. ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future. I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience . If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there.
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