OK Then... New Biggest Need

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2023, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap?

The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players.

Yup. The type of injuries we have been experiencing have nothing to do with conditioning or such. It's simply been bad luck. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time AND to key individual players. In fact I read that our soft tissue numbers are way down. That's on the Saints' Dr. Matt Rhea.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2023, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If they know a fountain of youth I’m all for it. How could Tom Brady last as long as he did?

For one thing he was very lucky. And he was talented enough to stay away from trouble. Certainly some players have better genes than others.

Rugby Saint II · 03-21-2023, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sammy Watkins - Washed
Mike Evans - Still Good
ODB - Washed
Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide
Kelvin Benjamin - out the league
Marquise Lee - Out the league
Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads
Paul Richarson - Out the league
Davante Adams - Still Good
Cody Lattimer - Out the league
Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide
Jarvis Landry - Washed

Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA.

I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

subguy · 03-22-2023, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Edit ** it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND Chark.

They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore.

If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid.

UGH....very true

subguy · 03-22-2023, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too.

Inclined to agree

subguy · 03-22-2023, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future.

I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience .

If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there.

saintsfan1976 · 03-22-2023, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future.

I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience .

If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there.

Dunno man...

Players seem to really respect and revere OBJ. Says a lot.

Most of us here thought MT was absolutely a diva for sure gone. What did we know...

SmashMouth · 03-22-2023, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

KMajor says he's as awesome. While I am an LSU homer, I'm not quite ready to jump off the ledge just yet!

AsylumGuido · 03-22-2023, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Dunno man...

Players seem to really respect and revere OBJ. Says a lot.

Most of us here thought MT was absolutely a diva for sure gone. What did we know...

I was not among those at all. And he's far from being a diva. One could say he's the polar opposite.

K Major · 03-22-2023, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

KMajor says he's as awesome. While I am an LSU homer, I'm not quite ready to jump off the ledge just yet!

Lol !!... slight exaggeration eh

?

He would be one hell of an X (in case MT isn't healthy) or even the Z. Chark isn't awesome but would be a quality compliment to our group.

03-21-2023, 02:02 PM	#31
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Boston Saint The injury issue is a tricky thing. Both Thomas and Landry started off last year healthy (So did Penning). The injuries they had were not reoccurring issues. They were plays that could happen to any player. Didn’t Trautman hurt himself running a route pre-snap? The Saints were Snakebit for injuries last year. The national press has documented it. That’s 2 years in a row we’ve had really bad luck as far as player availability. It’s happened to old, young, prone and non-prone players. Yup. The type of injuries we have been experiencing have nothing to do with conditioning or such. It's simply been bad luck. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time AND to key individual players. In fact I read that our soft tissue numbers are way down. That's on the Saints' Dr. Matt Rhea.

03-21-2023, 02:05 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Boston Saint If they know a fountain of youth I’m all for it. How could Tom Brady last as long as he did? For one thing he was very lucky. And he was talented enough to stay away from trouble. Certainly some players have better genes than others.

03-21-2023, 04:18 PM	#33
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by SmashMouth Sammy Watkins - Washed Mike Evans - Still Good ODB - Washed Bradin Cooks - Meh Downslide Kelvin Benjamin - out the league Marquise Lee - Out the league Jordan Matthews - Washed been bouncing around Practice squads Paul Richarson - Out the league Davante Adams - Still Good Cody Lattimer - Out the league Allen Robinson - Meh Downslide Jarvis Landry - Washed Let's get our younger players to step up and get some new players both in the draft and UDFA. I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me.

03-22-2023, 06:34 AM	#34
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major Edit it appears the Panthers are closing in on Thielen AND** Chark. They are in serious need of pass catchers after the departure of DJ Moore. If the Panthers get their QB (long term) in the draft, they could be dangerous in the NFC South. Their defense is already solid. UGH....very true

03-22-2023, 06:35 AM	#35
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by BakoSaint We already have the most injury prone wide receiver in the league. We do not need to get the 2nd or 3rd most injury prone one too. Inclined to agree

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03-22-2023, 06:47 AM	#36
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me. ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future. I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience . If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there.
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03-22-2023, 05:19 PM	#37
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by subguy ODB is another "all about me" player. Injuries have bit him recently, and his asking price is not good. Landry and ODB are the same age if not mistaken it is time to get some future. I hope MT can have one last good year, because he is in that 30 yr old group as well. Unfortunately, he watched from his living room during his prime. Him having a good year could afford us to give youth a year of experience . If there was a veteran that would come at a fair price, I wouldn't mind picking up one more but it is slim pickings out there. Dunno man... Players seem to really respect and revere OBJ. Says a lot. Most of us here thought MT was absolutely a diva for sure gone. What did we know...

03-22-2023, 05:35 PM	#38
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I agree with bringing in younger, cheaper players who the Saints scouts think will fit the system. What are your thoughts on DJ Clark? He seems like a solid option to me. KMajor says he's as awesome. While I am an LSU homer, I'm not quite ready to jump off the ledge just yet! Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

03-22-2023, 05:52 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Dunno man... Players seem to really respect and revere OBJ. Says a lot. Most of us here thought MT was absolutely a diva for sure gone. What did we know... I was not among those at all. And he's far from being a diva. One could say he's the polar opposite. Rell&Gold likes this.

03-22-2023, 05:57 PM	#40
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by SmashMouth KMajor says he's as awesome. While I am an LSU homer, I'm not quite ready to jump off the ledge just yet! Lol !!... slight exaggeration eh ? He would be one hell of an X (in case MT isn't healthy) or even the Z. Chark isn't awesome but would be a quality compliment to our group. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.