OK Then... New Biggest Need

K Major · 03-26-2023, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Not to mention Zach Baun who set some kind of college record for sacks, somehow became a linebacker.

Kikaha, Baun, Davenport, Payton Turner's of the world …

IMO heavenly influenced Sean Payton "picks".

saintsfan1976 · 03-26-2023, 11:28 AM

If any of these names fall to #20 (realistic), I'm making phone calls:

TE Myles Murphy
WR Quentin Johnston
DE Michael Mayer

leilung · 03-27-2023, 12:38 AM

Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone?

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2023, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone?

Jordan, Kpassagnon, Granderson, Turner, and Jabari Zuniga.

Zuniga -

Ourlads' Profile:

2020 Guide: What Ourlads' Scouting Services said about JABARI ZUNIGA: Florida, 6033 264 4.64. Two-year starter, Marietta, GA. Started games all four years. Has been used as a versatile inside-out player who can take advantage of interior blockers and tackles. He has a style that may be too quick for guards and centers and too powerful for the tackles. The tools are there to be developed and the flashes on tape go to show there is a high ceiling of edge prospects in the class. He had a hard time staying healthy but if a team can pinpoint the right role for him and he can stay on the field, watch out. Built for the trenches, both inside and outside. Thick and powerful upper body with long arms and big hands. Thick from the waist to knees with basketball player calves and ankles. Versatile inside-out defender who has been equally productive from both spots. Has a stifling initial punch to the blocker’s chest with a low base, often standing the blocker up. Outstanding straight line burst in both tight areas and in space. Gets across gaps with urgency. Plays with different gears, shows the ability to close hard and fast. A violent finisher. Has flashed dominant traits all four years of his career. Has failed to consistently put things together, never quite lived up to the hype and potential. Will lose track of gap assignments at times. Plays an aggressive style that can sometimes come across as reckless and roaming. May be a player without a true position. Has durability issues. 2019 stats (6 games): 14 T, 7 TFL, 3 sacks, 1 QBH. Edge speed:left 1.97, right 2.12. OSR:2/25. Third/fourth round. (A-32 7/8, H-10 3/8, BP-29, 10-1.64).

Rugby Saint II · 03-27-2023, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Jordan, Kpassagnon, Granderson, Turner, and Jabari Zuniga.

Zuniga -

Ourlads' Profile:

2020 Guide: What Ourlads' Scouting Services said about JABARI ZUNIGA: Florida, 6033 264 4.64. Two-year starter, Marietta, GA. Started games all four years. Has been used as a versatile inside-out player who can take advantage of interior blockers and tackles. He has a style that may be too quick for guards and centers and too powerful for the tackles. The tools are there to be developed and the flashes on tape go to show there is a high ceiling of edge prospects in the class. He had a hard time staying healthy but if a team can pinpoint the right role for him and he can stay on the field, watch out. Built for the trenches, both inside and outside. Thick and powerful upper body with long arms and big hands. Thick from the waist to knees with basketball player calves and ankles. Versatile inside-out defender who has been equally productive from both spots. Has a stifling initial punch to the blocker’s chest with a low base, often standing the blocker up. Outstanding straight line burst in both tight areas and in space. Gets across gaps with urgency. Plays with different gears, shows the ability to close hard and fast. A violent finisher. Has flashed dominant traits all four years of his career. Has failed to consistently put things together, never quite lived up to the hype and potential. Will lose track of gap assignments at times. Plays an aggressive style that can sometimes come across as reckless and roaming. May be a player without a true position. Has durability issues. 2019 stats (6 games): 14 T, 7 TFL, 3 sacks, 1 QBH. Edge speed:left 1.97, right 2.12. OSR:2/25. Third/fourth round. (A-32 7/8, H-10 3/8, BP-29, 10-1.64).

He has an injury history and is another developmental player. Buyer beware.

rezburna · 03-27-2023, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone?

I believe Carl Granderson is the guy.

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2023, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I believe Carl Granderson is the guy.

Yup. Me too. If we do draft at the position I'm expecting them to be basically rotational depth. Moving on from Davenport should give Granderson a more prominent role and I believe he'll make an impact.

One thing that confuses me is how badly the defensive line has been dogged on their sack numbers. I've heard said that sacks are just as much a team stat as an individual stat. The Saints finished last season ranked 5th in the NFL in sacks as a team.

K Major · 03-27-2023, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I believe Carl Granderson is the guy.

Nice season for CG in 2022 but the Saints better hope the lights come on for Payton Turner in 2023.

In my opinion, we need to aim higher at DE. Outside of Cam, we have a lot of depth players at the position.

rezburna · 03-27-2023, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Nice season for CG in 2022 but the Saints better hope the lights come on for Payton Turner in 2023.

In my opinion, we need to aim higher at DE. Outside of Cam, we have a lot of depth players at the position.

I like the kid from Kansas State.

Mr.Riaton · 03-27-2023, 04:15 PM

Speaking of DEs…I read saints met with Will Anderson who will most likely not get out of top 5 maybe top 10 tops You think they’d trade up that high for him? Why else would they meet with him?

03-26-2023, 10:42 AM	#51
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by dizzle88 Not to mention Zach Baun who set some kind of college record for sacks, somehow became a linebacker. Kikaha, Baun, Davenport, Payton Turner's of the world … IMO heavenly influenced Sean Payton "picks".

03-26-2023, 11:28 AM	#52
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,539 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need If any of these names fall to #20 (realistic), I'm making phone calls: TE Myles Murphy WR Quentin Johnston DE Michael Mayer

03-27-2023, 12:38 AM	#53
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,156	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone?

03-27-2023, 07:36 AM	#54
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by leilung Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone? Jordan, Kpassagnon, Granderson, Turner, and Jabari Zuniga. Zuniga - Ourlads' Profile: 2020 Guide: What Ourlads' Scouting Services said about JABARI ZUNIGA: Florida, 6033 264 4.64. Two-year starter, Marietta, GA. Started games all four years. Has been used as a versatile inside-out player who can take advantage of interior blockers and tackles. He has a style that may be too quick for guards and centers and too powerful for the tackles. The tools are there to be developed and the flashes on tape go to show there is a high ceiling of edge prospects in the class. He had a hard time staying healthy but if a team can pinpoint the right role for him and he can stay on the field, watch out. Built for the trenches, both inside and outside. Thick and powerful upper body with long arms and big hands. Thick from the waist to knees with basketball player calves and ankles. Versatile inside-out defender who has been equally productive from both spots. Has a stifling initial punch to the blocker’s chest with a low base, often standing the blocker up. Outstanding straight line burst in both tight areas and in space. Gets across gaps with urgency. Plays with different gears, shows the ability to close hard and fast. A violent finisher. Has flashed dominant traits all four years of his career. Has failed to consistently put things together, never quite lived up to the hype and potential. Will lose track of gap assignments at times. Plays an aggressive style that can sometimes come across as reckless and roaming. May be a player without a true position. Has durability issues. 2019 stats (6 games): 14 T, 7 TFL, 3 sacks, 1 QBH. Edge speed:left 1.97, right 2.12. OSR:2/25. Third/fourth round. (A-32 7/8, H-10 3/8, BP-29, 10-1.64).
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03-27-2023, 01:48 PM	#55
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,739	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Jordan, Kpassagnon, Granderson, Turner, and Jabari Zuniga. Zuniga - Ourlads' Profile: 2020 Guide: What Ourlads' Scouting Services said about JABARI ZUNIGA: Florida, 6033 264 4.64. Two-year starter, Marietta, GA. Started games all four years. Has been used as a versatile inside-out player who can take advantage of interior blockers and tackles. He has a style that may be too quick for guards and centers and too powerful for the tackles. The tools are there to be developed and the flashes on tape go to show there is a high ceiling of edge prospects in the class. He had a hard time staying healthy but if a team can pinpoint the right role for him and he can stay on the field, watch out. Built for the trenches, both inside and outside. Thick and powerful upper body with long arms and big hands. Thick from the waist to knees with basketball player calves and ankles. Versatile inside-out defender who has been equally productive from both spots. Has a stifling initial punch to the blocker’s chest with a low base, often standing the blocker up. Outstanding straight line burst in both tight areas and in space. Gets across gaps with urgency. Plays with different gears, shows the ability to close hard and fast. A violent finisher. Has flashed dominant traits all four years of his career. Has failed to consistently put things together, never quite lived up to the hype and potential. Will lose track of gap assignments at times. Plays an aggressive style that can sometimes come across as reckless and roaming. May be a player without a true position. Has durability issues. 2019 stats (6 games): 14 T, 7 TFL, 3 sacks, 1 QBH. Edge speed:left 1.97, right 2.12. OSR:2/25. Third/fourth round. (A-32 7/8, H-10 3/8, BP-29, 10-1.64). He has an injury history and is another developmental player. Buyer beware.

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03-27-2023, 01:54 PM	#56
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,662	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by leilung Who do we have now at DE with Davenport gone? I believe Carl Granderson is the guy. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I believe Carl Granderson is the guy. Yup. Me too. If we do draft at the position I'm expecting them to be basically rotational depth. Moving on from Davenport should give Granderson a more prominent role and I believe he'll make an impact. One thing that confuses me is how badly the defensive line has been dogged on their sack numbers. I've heard said that sacks are just as much a team stat as an individual stat. The Saints finished last season ranked 5th in the NFL in sacks as a team.

03-27-2023, 02:42 PM	#58
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by rezburna I believe Carl Granderson is the guy. Nice season for CG in 2022 but the Saints better hope the lights come on for Payton Turner in 2023. In my opinion, we need to aim higher at DE. Outside of Cam, we have a lot of depth players at the position. leilung likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,662	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Originally Posted by K Major Nice season for CG in 2022 but the Saints better hope the lights come on for Payton Turner in 2023. In my opinion, we need to aim higher at DE. Outside of Cam, we have a lot of depth players at the position. I like the kid from Kansas State. K Major likes this.

03-27-2023, 04:15 PM	#60
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,254	Re: OK Then... New Biggest Need Speaking of DEs…I read saints met with Will Anderson who will most likely not get out of top 5 maybe top 10 tops You think they’d trade up that high for him? Why else would they meet with him?