Trade kamara

AsylumGuido · 06-15-2023, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Kamara came in looking highly motivated. He was all business at practice this week. He was not his usual jovial self.

I believe it was Triplett that said Kamara came in knowing his production last season was not up to his standards (not all his fault) and he appeared to being extra focused and motivated.

Rugby Saint II · 06-15-2023, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I believe it was Triplett that said Kamara came in knowing his production last season was not up to his standards (not all his fault) and he appeared to being extra focused and motivated.

When Payton left he must have taken all the creativity from the play book with him. It's obvious that AK is not a bell cow type RB. He can run between the tackles occasionally but he's not built for it. Give that man some space to work in!

AsylumGuido · 06-15-2023, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

When Payton left he must have taken all the creativity from the play book with him. It's obvious that AK is not a bell cow type RB. He can run between the tackles occasionally but he's not built for it. Give that man some space to work in!

He must have also taken the health of the offensive line away, as well. The two factors that made Kamara so good in space was 1) Drew Brees delivering him the ball, and 2) the offensive line working together as a unit to set up the screens.

Over the past two seasons we have had a QB out there with the ability to place the ball with the touch and accuracy that Brees employed and we've had a patchwork offensive line that literally haven't played two games in a row with each other in two years. I'm excited to see what he can do with a healthy line and Carr under center.

Boston Saint · 06-15-2023, 02:06 PM

I don’t have the time or resources to do it efficiently, but I would like to see an evaluation of production from teams offenses based solely upon running backs over the last say, 20 years. A full stat breakdown of Who has gotten the most yards from scrimmage and total scoring from their running backs would be interesting. I’m guessing the Saints would be pretty hi on the list.

rezburna · 06-15-2023, 02:08 PM

No reason to let him go. Won't save us any money. Won't make us any better.

Rugby Saint II · 06-20-2023, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

No reason to let him go. Won't save us any money. Won't make us any better.

If we were to cut Kamara it would cost us more money than we save to part ways with him now. Then we would need to find another RB which would cost us even more money. I believe we need to hold on to him this season and then look at his contract next year when it's cheaper to trade or cut him. Personally, I hope he finishes out his contract with New Orleans while playing well.

AK could surprise some folks and have a good season when he returns from his suspension. If Carmichael feels good about the offense then he might be more aggressive and get the ball to AK in space with some clever play calling. Fingers crossed!

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2023, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If we were to cut Kamara it would cost us more money than we save to part ways with him now. Then we would need to find another RB which would cost us even more money. I believe we need to hold on to him this season and then look at his contract next year when it's cheaper to trade or cut him. Personally, I hope he finishes out his contract with New Orleans while playing well.

AK could surprise some folks and have a good season when he returns from his suspension. If Carmichael feels good about the offense then he might be more aggressive and get the ball to AK in space with some clever play calling. Fingers crossed!

I've mentioned this before, but I believe you can tie Kamara's reduced production over the past couple of years directly to the massive number of injuries to the offensive line and QB's. That all had to have had a detrimental affect on both Carmichael's playcalling options and Kamara's output.

BakoSaint · 06-20-2023, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I've mentioned this before, but I believe you can tie Kamara's reduced production over the past couple of years directly to the massive number of injuries to the offensive line and QB's. That all had to have had a detrimental affect on both Carmichael's playcalling options and Kamara's output.

The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team.

Boston Saint · 06-20-2023, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team.

Do you really think that's fair though Bako? Penning is in his second year and was hampered by a stupid team induced injury injury so far. We don't know what he is going to bring to the table this season. Plus we drafted and signed new depth. I know it's your nature to criticize, but this is a reach even for you.

jnormand · 06-20-2023, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team.

Kamara is going to be made an example of by the league. Imo I think he’s gone at least 6 games, maybe more.

I wouldn’t be worried if AK can run behind that line. I’d be more concerned with the other RBs and if the line will hold for Carr. I think it will. But we need more depth.

06-15-2023, 12:38 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Kamara came in looking highly motivated. He was all business at practice this week. He was not his usual jovial self. I believe it was Triplett that said Kamara came in knowing his production last season was not up to his standards (not all his fault) and he appeared to being extra focused and motivated.

06-15-2023, 01:53 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I believe it was Triplett that said Kamara came in knowing his production last season was not up to his standards (not all his fault) and he appeared to being extra focused and motivated. When Payton left he must have taken all the creativity from the play book with him. It's obvious that AK is not a bell cow type RB. He can run between the tackles occasionally but he's not built for it. Give that man some space to work in! MatthewT likes this.

06-15-2023, 02:40 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II When Payton left he must have taken all the creativity from the play book with him. It's obvious that AK is not a bell cow type RB. He can run between the tackles occasionally but he's not built for it. Give that man some space to work in! He must have also taken the health of the offensive line away, as well. The two factors that made Kamara so good in space was 1) Drew Brees delivering him the ball, and 2) the offensive line working together as a unit to set up the screens. Over the past two seasons we have had a QB out there with the ability to place the ball with the touch and accuracy that Brees employed and we've had a patchwork offensive line that literally haven't played two games in a row with each other in two years. I'm excited to see what he can do with a healthy line and Carr under center.
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06-15-2023, 02:06 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Trade kamara I don’t have the time or resources to do it efficiently, but I would like to see an evaluation of production from teams offenses based solely upon running backs over the last say, 20 years. A full stat breakdown of Who has gotten the most yards from scrimmage and total scoring from their running backs would be interesting. I’m guessing the Saints would be pretty hi on the list.

06-15-2023, 02:08 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Trade kamara No reason to let him go. Won't save us any money. Won't make us any better. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-20-2023, 09:37 AM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by rezburna No reason to let him go. Won't save us any money. Won't make us any better. If we were to cut Kamara it would cost us more money than we save to part ways with him now. Then we would need to find another RB which would cost us even more money. I believe we need to hold on to him this season and then look at his contract next year when it's cheaper to trade or cut him. Personally, I hope he finishes out his contract with New Orleans while playing well. AK could surprise some folks and have a good season when he returns from his suspension. If Carmichael feels good about the offense then he might be more aggressive and get the ball to AK in space with some clever play calling. Fingers crossed!
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06-20-2023, 10:35 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If we were to cut Kamara it would cost us more money than we save to part ways with him now. Then we would need to find another RB which would cost us even more money. I believe we need to hold on to him this season and then look at his contract next year when it's cheaper to trade or cut him. Personally, I hope he finishes out his contract with New Orleans while playing well. AK could surprise some folks and have a good season when he returns from his suspension. If Carmichael feels good about the offense then he might be more aggressive and get the ball to AK in space with some clever play calling. Fingers crossed! I've mentioned this before, but I believe you can tie Kamara's reduced production over the past couple of years directly to the massive number of injuries to the offensive line and QB's. That all had to have had a detrimental affect on both Carmichael's playcalling options and Kamara's output. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-20-2023, 08:55 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,305	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I've mentioned this before, but I believe you can tie Kamara's reduced production over the past couple of years directly to the massive number of injuries to the offensive line and QB's. That all had to have had a detrimental affect on both Carmichael's playcalling options and Kamara's output. The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team. SmashMouth likes this.
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06-20-2023, 09:23 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by BakoSaint The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team. Do you really think that's fair though Bako? Penning is in his second year and was hampered by a stupid team induced injury injury so far. We don't know what he is going to bring to the table this season. Plus we drafted and signed new depth. I know it's your nature to criticize, but this is a reach even for you. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-20-2023, 09:51 PM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,737	Re: Trade kamara Originally Posted by BakoSaint The trouble is we go into 2023 with basically the same oline but a year older. We added some mid round pick and a journeyman 1st round bust but we did not proritize the position. Kamara still depends on Peat, and unfortunately for him the Saints are not a hot dog eating contest team. Kamara is going to be made an example of by the league. Imo I think he’s gone at least 6 games, maybe more. I wouldn’t be worried if AK can run behind that line. I’d be more concerned with the other RBs and if the line will hold for Carr. I think it will. But we need more depth. MatthewT likes this.

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