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AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 08:16 AM
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Nice to hear that Derek Carr has that chip on his shoulder. Sign of a champion.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 08:44 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 08:48 AM
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SmashMouth 08-10-2023 09:25 AM
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Gotta keep his foot of canal condo lived in.... next to SP's and Angela Hill.

K Major 08-10-2023 10:54 AM
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Can't post a link by Jeff Duncan from earlier this morning however I'll paraphase ...

Granderson (undrafted) is competing with former 1st rounder Payton Turner for the starting spot left by Davenport. In his words "it's not much of a competition".

Carl G continues to improve as a run defender & has been an effective pass rush in camp. Bascially holding his own up against the Trevor aka Junk Yard Dawg.

Interesting take by Jeff D by saying "it's not much of a competition".

Well, guess I'll be looking closely at the DE spots on Sunday vs ELITE competition ... Patrick M is set to see action for a drive or two.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/sBl8F...giphy.gif&ct=g

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 11:08 AM
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Jeff Duncan: 10 Saints players who have shined and opened eyes during training camp

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 11:14 AM
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There is a position battle in New Orleans Saints training camp that is red hot, and upcoming preseason action should answer a lot of questions for the Saints.

There are several camp battles for certain spots in the lineup of the New Orleans Saints, and it seems like the majority are on the defensive side of the ball. One that is probably the hottest at the moment though, is the competition to see who will be starting at defensive end opposite Cameron Jordan for the Saints between Payton Turner and Carl Granderson.

Turner has been showing out so far in camp, which is a welcome sign in the building considering the Saints used their 28th overall pick in the 2021 Draft to bring him in, and the return of investment hasn't exactly been up to snuff... yet. Sometimes that happens though with defensive linemen, see Brandon Graham with the Philadelphia Eagles as a bit of a pipedream example.

Read the rest here ...

K Major 08-10-2023 12:12 PM
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Good listen here from Ross.

Crusader 08-10-2023 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976954)
There is a position battle in New Orleans Saints training camp that is red hot, and upcoming preseason action should answer a lot of questions for the Saints.

There are several camp battles for certain spots in the lineup of the New Orleans Saints, and it seems like the majority are on the defensive side of the ball. One that is probably the hottest at the moment though, is the competition to see who will be starting at defensive end opposite Cameron Jordan for the Saints between Payton Turner and Carl Granderson.

Turner has been showing out so far in camp, which is a welcome sign in the building considering the Saints used their 28th overall pick in the 2021 Draft to bring him in, and the return of investment hasn't exactly been up to snuff... yet. Sometimes that happens though with defensive linemen, see Brandon Graham with the Philadelphia Eagles as a bit of a pipedream example.

Read the rest here ...
Sometimes the step to NFL takes time. Look at Trey Hendrickson. A third rounder that didn't look great the first two years and then BOOM 13,5 sacks the third year.

Rugby Saint II 08-10-2023 12:25 PM
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Sometimes the step to NFL takes time. Look at Trey Hendrickson. A third rounder that didn't look great the first two years and then BOOM 13,5 sacks the third year.
Hey, at least he's developing. Ill take that over Davenports production.

rezburna 08-10-2023 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 976954)
There is a position battle in New Orleans Saints training camp that is red hot, and upcoming preseason action should answer a lot of questions for the Saints.

There are several camp battles for certain spots in the lineup of the New Orleans Saints, and it seems like the majority are on the defensive side of the ball. One that is probably the hottest at the moment though, is the competition to see who will be starting at defensive end opposite Cameron Jordan for the Saints between Payton Turner and Carl Granderson.

Turner has been showing out so far in camp, which is a welcome sign in the building considering the Saints used their 28th overall pick in the 2021 Draft to bring him in, and the return of investment hasn't exactly been up to snuff... yet. Sometimes that happens though with defensive linemen, see Brandon Graham with the Philadelphia Eagles as a bit of a pipedream example.

Read the rest here ...
This is great. Adds a lot of depth to the DE spot if we can have Granderson and Turner both balling. Hopefully Foskey develops as well.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 01:37 PM
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Nice interview with Brooke here.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 01:57 PM
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Smoke supposedly stood out today in camp.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 01:59 PM
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AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 02:57 PM
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AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 03:00 PM
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Crusader 08-10-2023 03:59 PM
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Hey, at least he's developing. Ill take that over Davenports production.
Yeah Davenport was an enigma. Extremely physically gifted but just couldn't get the mental aspect right.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 976987)
Yeah Davenport was an enigma. Extremely physically gifted but just couldn't get the mental aspect right.
Yet the clueless pundits claim the loss of Davenport and the equally ineffective Onyemata are critical losses that should downgrade the Saints defensive prospects this season.

:rolleyes: :doh:

K Major 08-10-2023 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 976987)
Yeah Davenport was an enigma. Extremely physically gifted but just couldn't get the mental aspect right.
Just couldn't stay on the field on Sundays. He was very good (except last season) but had questionable availability.

Only gave us a tease of his potential.

He is the Viking's problem now so there's that. Now we can focus on Davenport 2.0 ... I mean Payton Turner :rolleyes:.

According to Jeff Duncan, Carl Granderson has had a better camp than PT thus far.

dizzle88 08-10-2023 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 976990)
Just couldn't stay on the field on Sundays. He was very good (except last season) but had questionable availability.

Only gave us a tease of his potential.

He is the Viking's problem now so there's that. Now we can focus on Davenport 2.0 ... I mean Payton Turner :rolleyes:.

According to Jeff Duncan, Carl Granderson has had a better camp than PT thus far.
I think it was 2021 season, but there was comparison videos of Carl Granderson working with martial arts trainers to better fight off blocks and doing a lean sprint challenge at the same time.

At the same time, Davenport was in Japan getting photos of Anime.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 05:17 PM
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This here!

"I don't look at it any different than you look at any player. Look, injuries happen. This isn't like the same thing that's happened to Mike three years in a row. He's had some different things happen. What I don't question is his desire, his work ethic, the things that he's done 10 miles overboard in getting himself ready. And no one wants it more than him."

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 05:19 PM
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Generally, you're not counting on your draft picks, because you know they need time to develop. But if you can get a jump from your second-year guys and even your third-year guys, then you can make significant improvement. And I would say, Trevor Penning, Alontae, Chris (Olave), if they make another jump, man we've got a really good chance to be a pretty good football team." Also brought up Pete Werner.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 05:43 PM
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AsylumGuido 08-10-2023 05:47 PM
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SmashMouth 08-10-2023 07:46 PM
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Preseason football on TeeBee tonight.

AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:12 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:14 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:14 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:16 AM
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DA rocking the TEAM me shirt like Thomas did a couple of weeks back.

AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:18 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:30 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 11:34 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 01:47 PM
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Rugby Saint II 08-11-2023 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 977047)
It's good to see that Trevor hasn't lost his fire. Gotta' keep it under control though.

SmashMouth 08-11-2023 02:44 PM
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SmashMouth 08-11-2023 02:49 PM
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SmashMouth 08-11-2023 02:51 PM
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AsylumGuido 08-11-2023 03:01 PM
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It's good to see that Trevor hasn't lost his fire. Gotta' keep it under control though.
He didn't start this one. He only joined in when his fellow offensive lineman had his helmet ripped off. I'm sure the coaches didn't mind his standing up for a teammate.

K Major 08-11-2023 03:31 PM
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So a sprained MCL for Landon Young and Peat 😏 is already showing hints
that he isn’t the one to be counted on in those trenches.

Lets go James Hurst!

Bring in more guys on that O line.

17 games + post season …

K Major 08-11-2023 03:40 PM
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Preseason football on TeeBee tonight.
CJ Stroud first pass … a pick. Lattimore is probably somewhere
rubbing his hands together.

Maybe the Texans let CJ sit for a season a learn?

Once a rookie QB lose that confidence, its over.


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