Special Teams battles

AsylumGuido · 06-30-2023, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

"Tie goes to the experienced vet". That's a flawed point of view, especially if the younger guy is cheaper. Especially if the vet is in a three year downturn

My point of view doesn't matter, flawed or not. Fortunately I'm not the one making the decision. Nor are any of us, thank God. I'll leave that to the ones that know the best.

Rugby Saint II · 07-01-2023, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

"Tie goes to the experienced vet". That's a flawed point of view, especially if the younger guy is cheaper. Especially if the vet is in a three year downturn

Not necessarily Boston. It may come down to who makes the longest kicks consistently. It may be who is best at PAT's or maybe who is the most consistent. My point is whoever is the best kicker wins. If it's a tie then I think the tie goes to the vet. Didn't Lutz take a pay cut? If so, then cost isn't really a factor but trust is still important.

K Major · 08-03-2023, 10:22 AM

Bump ...

Good topic here Boston.

Since the Saints just lost Dowell (IR/knee), it leaves the door open for Baun and Jackson as our #3&4. I'd give DD & Pete W more "vet" days off at camp

. 17 games + the possible postseason is a grind.

Guys on the outside looking in on S/T include Anderson & Connelly.

It appears Zach Baun's ceiling is special teams

.

Rugby Saint II · 08-03-2023, 12:33 PM

Will Lutz isn't giving up his job without a fight. Right now Lutz and Grupe are tied with only on miss in practice. Lutz has been money and my guess is Lutz will win the competition, and Grupe will wind up show casing his skills and probably making it on another team. Our punter is nailing coffin kicks again and we still have Shaheed giving us electric returns. I don't see special teams as a weakness this year unlike the last couple of years.

Boston Saint · 08-30-2023, 01:30 PM

Dang, I called this on both kicker and punter !

Rugby Saint II · 08-30-2023, 01:36 PM

We've got a minor kicking for us and an Aussie rugby player punting. We will sure look different getting off the bus now.

K Major · 08-30-2023, 02:12 PM

Boston called it months ago.

See post #10.

But man, rookie kickers scare me.

Boston Saint · 08-30-2023, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Boston called it months ago.

See post #10.

But man, rookie kickers scare me.

Every Saints kicker since Mort Anderson has scared me !

Boston Saint · 08-30-2023, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Boston called it months ago.

See post #10.

But man, rookie kickers scare me.

Every Saints kicker since Mort Andersen has scared me !

Rugby Saint II · 08-31-2023, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Every Saints kicker since Mort Andersen has scared me !

That's definitely worth saying twice.

07-01-2023, 12:01 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Special Teams battles Originally Posted by Boston Saint "Tie goes to the experienced vet". That's a flawed point of view, especially if the younger guy is cheaper. Especially if the vet is in a three year downturn Not necessarily Boston. It may come down to who makes the longest kicks consistently. It may be who is best at PAT's or maybe who is the most consistent. My point is whoever is the best kicker wins. If it's a tie then I think the tie goes to the vet. Didn't Lutz take a pay cut? If so, then cost isn't really a factor but trust is still important.

08-03-2023, 12:33 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Special Teams battles Will Lutz isn't giving up his job without a fight. Right now Lutz and Grupe are tied with only on miss in practice. Lutz has been money and my guess is Lutz will win the competition, and Grupe will wind up show casing his skills and probably making it on another team. Our punter is nailing coffin kicks again and we still have Shaheed giving us electric returns. I don't see special teams as a weakness this year unlike the last couple of years.

08-30-2023, 01:30 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Special Teams battles Dang, I called this on both kicker and punter ! Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-30-2023, 01:36 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Special Teams battles We've got a minor kicking for us and an Aussie rugby player punting. We will sure look different getting off the bus now. Boston Saint likes this.

08-30-2023, 02:12 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Special Teams battles Boston called it months ago. See post #10. But man, rookie kickers scare me. Boston Saint likes this.

06-30-2023, 03:18 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Special Teams battles Originally Posted by Boston Saint "Tie goes to the experienced vet". That's a flawed point of view, especially if the younger guy is cheaper. Especially if the vet is in a three year downturn My point of view doesn't matter, flawed or not. Fortunately I'm not the one making the decision. Nor are any of us, thank God. I'll leave that to the ones that know the best.

08-03-2023, 10:22 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Special Teams battles Bump ... Good topic here Boston. Since the Saints just lost Dowell (IR/knee), it leaves the door open for Baun and Jackson as our #3&4. I'd give DD & Pete W more "vet" days off at camp . 17 games + the possible postseason is a grind. Guys on the outside looking in on S/T include Anderson & Connelly. It appears Zach Baun's ceiling is special teams . Boston Saint likes this.

08-30-2023, 02:15 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Special Teams battles Originally Posted by K Major Boston called it months ago. See post #10. But man, rookie kickers scare me. Every Saints kicker since Mort Anderson has scared me !

08-30-2023, 02:16 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Special Teams battles Originally Posted by K Major Boston called it months ago. See post #10. But man, rookie kickers scare me. Every Saints kicker since Mort Andersen has scared me ! K Major likes this.

08-31-2023, 01:15 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Special Teams battles Originally Posted by Boston Saint Every Saints kicker since Mort Andersen has scared me ! That's definitely worth saying twice.