Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers

leilung · 09-14-2023, 07:14 AM

Never take any opponent lightly when you're "supposed" to win. Especially, in the Dirty South!

Last year when we played Carolina, a QB who threw for 47 yds., 2 INTs, Sacked 2 times, and had a QB Rating of .... wait for it... 2.8... WON!

Hit them hard! Hit them often! And score! Let's get it done

SmashMouth · 09-14-2023, 11:09 AM

K Major · 09-14-2023, 11:14 AM

If you get a chance, check out the film study Rev Windham did on the interior D-line play.

Saunders & Roach were getting it done in those trenches. That interior "push" was getting there. Something that we missed last year.

By the way, Carl Granderson's hand technique is impressive & he's strong.

Saints are getting a lot of praise offensively, however, for me, it's that defensive front and secondary.

You stop the run, you make teams one-dimensional & subsequent turnovers. Saunders (his gap discipline is solid) was a key signing this off-season.

SmashMouth · 09-14-2023, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

If you get a chance, check out the film study Rev Windham did on the interior D-line play.

Saunders & Roach were getting it done in those trenches. That interior "push" was getting there. Something that we missed last year.

By the way, Carl Granderson's hand technique is impressive & he's strong.

Saints are getting a lot of praise offensively, however, for me, it's that defensive front and secondary.

You stop the run, you make teams one-dimensional & subsequent turnovers. Saunders (his gap discipline is solid) was a key signing this off-season.

Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later.

Rugby Saint II · 09-14-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later.

I don't know about not missing Turner much. He was looking like he had finally turned the corner and was getting pressure throughout training camp. I think he'll be missed even if Foskey gets all of his snaps.

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2023, 01:07 PM

The human turnstile (Throckmorton) may be starting for Carolina this week with the loss of their starting left guard. We definitely know his weaknesses.

saintsfan1976 · 09-14-2023, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later.

These are two vastly different players. Not an apples to apples. Evidenced by the signing of Phillips to the roster.

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2023, 04:08 PM

SmashMouth · 09-14-2023, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't know about not missing Turner much. He was looking like he had finally turned the corner and was getting pressure throughout training camp. I think he'll be missed even if Foskey gets all of his snaps.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

These are two vastly different players. Not an apples to apples. Evidenced by the signing of Phillips to the roster.

Turner hardly played, hence the comment. He may have looked decent during preseason and camp, however if his production wasn't noticed for live bullets, that says something. Time for WTFoskey to step up.

saintsfan1976 · 09-15-2023, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Turner hardly played, hence the comment. He may have looked decent during preseason and camp, however if his production wasn't noticed for live bullets, that says something. Time for WTFoskey to step up.

Turner had 6 stops and 3 TFL in his very first NFL game. In his first season his "5.3 pass rush productivity score from Pro Football Focus ranked 10th among the 26 rookie defensive linemen (both interior and edge rushers) to log 100 or more snaps."
Source: https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...player-grades/

He's clearly a player who can make an impact as evidenced by the play he got hurt on.

Injuries obviously derailed him. And then did again. And now, unfortunately another freak injury will sideline him until December (estimating).

My take is that he'll come back in December. Make some splash plays in the playoffs but we ultimately won't pick up the 5th year option and we'll hopefully have a great player on a friendly contract who can be a great value in 2024.

Foskey needs to prove he deserves to be on the field.

09-14-2023, 07:14 AM	#1
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,435	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Never take any opponent lightly when you're "supposed" to win. Especially, in the Dirty South! Last year when we played Carolina, a QB who threw for 47 yds., 2 INTs, Sacked 2 times, and had a QB Rating of .... wait for it... 2.8... WON! Hit them hard! Hit them often! And score! Let's get it done jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,865 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers If you get a chance, check out the film study Rev Windham did on the interior D-line play. Saunders & Roach were getting it done in those trenches. That interior "push" was getting there. Something that we missed last year. By the way, Carl Granderson's hand technique is impressive & he's strong. Saints are getting a lot of praise offensively, however, for me, it's that defensive front and secondary. You stop the run, you make teams one-dimensional & subsequent turnovers. Saunders (his gap discipline is solid) was a key signing this off-season. leilung, saintsfan1976, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

09-14-2023, 11:24 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,131 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by K Major If you get a chance, check out the film study Rev Windham did on the interior D-line play. Saunders & Roach were getting it done in those trenches. That interior "push" was getting there. Something that we missed last year. By the way, Carl Granderson's hand technique is impressive & he's strong. Saints are getting a lot of praise offensively, however, for me, it's that defensive front and secondary. You stop the run, you make teams one-dimensional & subsequent turnovers. Saunders (his gap discipline is solid) was a key signing this off-season. Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later. jnormand likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later. I don't know about not missing Turner much. He was looking like he had finally turned the corner and was getting pressure throughout training camp. I think he'll be missed even if Foskey gets all of his snaps. cmike and K Major like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,081 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later. These are two vastly different players. Not an apples to apples. Evidenced by the signing of Phillips to the roster.

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09-14-2023, 08:23 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,131 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Turner won't be missed much if any. We'll prolly get better with our depth. Hopefully WTFoskey can step up and contribute sooner than later. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't know about not missing Turner much. He was looking like he had finally turned the corner and was getting pressure throughout training camp. I think he'll be missed even if Foskey gets all of his snaps. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 These are two vastly different players. Not an apples to apples. Evidenced by the signing of Phillips to the roster. Turner hardly played, hence the comment. He may have looked decent during preseason and camp, however if his production wasn't noticed for live bullets, that says something. Time for WTFoskey to step up. jnormand and MatthewT like this.

09-15-2023, 01:35 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,081 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week 2 - Saints @ Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Turner hardly played, hence the comment. He may have looked decent during preseason and camp, however if his production wasn't noticed for live bullets, that says something. Time for WTFoskey to step up. Turner had 6 stops and 3 TFL in his very first NFL game. In his first season his "5.3 pass rush productivity score from Pro Football Focus ranked 10th among the 26 rookie defensive linemen (both interior and edge rushers) to log 100 or more snaps." Source: https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2022...player-grades/ He's clearly a player who can make an impact as evidenced by the play he got hurt on. Injuries obviously derailed him. And then did again. And now, unfortunately another freak injury will sideline him until December (estimating). My take is that he'll come back in December. Make some splash plays in the playoffs but we ultimately won't pick up the 5th year option and we'll hopefully have a great player on a friendly contract who can be a great value in 2024. Foskey needs to prove he deserves to be on the field. jnormand, SmashMouth and K Major like this.