Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

09-25-2023, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

As for a temporary replacement QB to fill out the roster, I would go Josh Johnson. I know that sounds crazy, but he may be the only guy available who can at least run out of the pocket to avoid some of the pass rush. Maybe Taysom Hill needs to start over Winston for the same reason?

I think Josh Johnson and Jameis Winston are the same guy. Kinda like Guido and shawnkytonk. Winston will have to suffice until Carr comes back and this O-line has to figure out how to do better soon.

Rsanders24 · 09-25-2023, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Before you jump all over me, go back and read the very first thing I mentioned about Carr, and yes, Winston is not a good fit for the Saints.

Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have.

Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before.

This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB.

mapcow · 09-25-2023, 01:05 PM

to yesterdays game and all the afterthoughts

rezburna · 09-25-2023, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have.

Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before.

This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB.

+1

neugey · 09-25-2023, 01:34 PM

Ian Book is available. Second time a charm?

Rugby Saint II · 09-25-2023, 01:36 PM

I listened to the game on the radio before I got home and turned on the TV at the end of the third quarter. I kind of wish I'd left it off. That's when we lost....oh, and DC4 injured his shoulder when I was watching.

I was pi$$ed off listening to Deuce talk about going 3-0 at half time. They were talking about how 3-0 teams are heavily favored to make the playoffs. My spidey senses were really tingling!

Danno · 09-25-2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have.

Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before.

This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB.

What scheme should we be running?

K Major · 09-25-2023, 03:19 PM

Saints punted 7 x’s on yesterday.

Wow 😮

dizzle88 · 09-25-2023, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints punted 7 x’s on yesterday.

Wow 😮

And they werent even very good punts.

I know Gillikin had a down year, but I'm not convinced this new guy is any better.

But yeah, same number of punts as offensive points.

Rsanders24 · 09-25-2023, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

What scheme should we be running?

I’m not an OC but I think we can all see it’s not a good offense. Get the QBs on the move and slide protection, hell…something different than we have seen.

We aren’t the only team with o-line issues. We have too much talent and speed on offense to be this pedestrian. On paper with MT, RS, CO, and the TEs we have something is wrong. With AK back we should be a top 10 offense easily.

Everyone thought that Carr was going to improve the offense…well three weeks in and against sub par defenses, it stinks.

If you think the scheme is fine, please elaborate on what the issue is.

I’m not against either QB but I haven’t seen anything this season that makes me believe that we will have anything close on offense to what we expected.

09-25-2023, 11:35 AM	#91
Threaded by iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by MatthewT As for a temporary replacement QB to fill out the roster, I would go Josh Johnson. I know that sounds crazy, but he may be the only guy available who can at least run out of the pocket to avoid some of the pass rush. Maybe Taysom Hill needs to start over Winston for the same reason? I think Josh Johnson and Jameis Winston are the same guy. Kinda like Guido and shawnkytonk. Winston will have to suffice until Carr comes back and this O-line has to figure out how to do better soon. MatthewT and SmashMouth like this.
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09-25-2023, 11:54 AM	#92
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,474	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by MatthewT Before you jump all over me, go back and read the very first thing I mentioned about Carr, and yes, Winston is not a good fit for the Saints. Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have. Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before. This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB. MatthewT, WW_Who_Dat and rezburna like this.

09-25-2023, 01:05 PM	#93
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09-25-2023, 01:22 PM	#94
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,671	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have. Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before. This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB. +1

09-25-2023, 01:34 PM	#95
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09-25-2023, 01:36 PM	#96
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,747	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers I listened to the game on the radio before I got home and turned on the TV at the end of the third quarter. I kind of wish I'd left it off. That's when we lost....oh, and DC4 injured his shoulder when I was watching. I was pi$$ed off listening to Deuce talk about going 3-0 at half time. They were talking about how 3-0 teams are heavily favored to make the playoffs. My spidey senses were really tingling! Danno likes this.

09-25-2023, 03:03 PM	#97
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,650	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Not jumping on you…just tired of the Carr vs Winston talk. It is completely pointless because the issue is that the offensive scheme doesn’t benefit either of the QBs we have. Let me ask you this though. What has Carr shown in the past or present that show he is a good fit. I don’t think either of them are good fit for the current offense and I’ve said that before. This team needs to address the elephant in the room and that is the offensive scheme. It’s not conducive for either QB. What scheme should we be running?

09-25-2023, 03:19 PM	#98
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Saints punted 7 x’s on yesterday. Wow 😮

09-25-2023, 03:23 PM	#99
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by K Major Saints punted 7 x’s on yesterday. Wow 😮 And they werent even very good punts. I know Gillikin had a down year, but I'm not convinced this new guy is any better. But yeah, same number of punts as offensive points. K Major likes this.

09-25-2023, 03:28 PM	#100
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,474	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Danno What scheme should we be running? I’m not an OC but I think we can all see it’s not a good offense. Get the QBs on the move and slide protection, hell…something different than we have seen. We aren’t the only team with o-line issues. We have too much talent and speed on offense to be this pedestrian. On paper with MT, RS, CO, and the TEs we have something is wrong. With AK back we should be a top 10 offense easily. Everyone thought that Carr was going to improve the offense…well three weeks in and against sub par defenses, it stinks. If you think the scheme is fine, please elaborate on what the issue is. I’m not against either QB but I haven’t seen anything this season that makes me believe that we will have anything close on offense to what we expected. K Major likes this.