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Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The play calling is horrible. Defense is doing their job but can't be expected to perform at a high level if they are on the field all the time. Both Carr and Winston are holding the ball too long. Did ...

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Old 09-25-2023, 04:42 PM   #101
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The play calling is horrible. Defense is doing their job but can't be expected to perform at a high level if they are on the field all the time. Both Carr and Winston are holding the ball too long. Did anybody else see multiple receivers in the same place? on multiple pass plays? Who is designing the route trees? The offense has NO identity. They haven't shown YET if they can pass, run or block well. At some point, we have to do something well (enough) so that other things opens up. As ugly as that loss was, we were just a field goal away from being 3-0.
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:42 PM   #102
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Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
What scheme should we be running?
I’ve asked for more motion. We should be motioning in almost every play. We need more bubble screens. We need more runs outside of the numbers. We need to push the ball down the field everytime there’s a one on one match up. I could go on and on about things I want to see but don’t.
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:48 PM   #103
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Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

Even if Grupe makes that kick, there's 1:10 on the clock and the Packers have 2-3 timeouts.

Theres no way our defense that just allowed 18 straight points would have stopped them.

As soon as the Packers went no huddle and we didn't adjust, this script was written and we were in trouble.
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Old 09-25-2023, 05:01 PM   #104
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
What scheme should we be running?
Watching the SF-Giants KC- Bears almost every play has motion to get a tell on the defensive coverage, zone, man, who’s isolated single coverage and then attack.
Looks dynamic because it is constantly forcing the defense to identify, communicate and adjust before the every snap.

Watching the Saints play is it
1.Offensive Line
2.Offensive Line Coaching
3.Scheme
Is it 1, 2 or all 3?

We will not have a healthy QB left at this pace by game 10 when the opponents DLine can Tee-off on our QB on too many 3rd and long.

On pace to allow 68 sacks … fix the first 2 and scheme will MIGHT resolve itself with … or not. Either way you have an answer.
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Old 09-25-2023, 05:16 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
I’ve asked for more motion. We should be motioning in almost every play. We need more bubble screens. We need more runs outside of the numbers. We need to push the ball down the field everytime there’s a one on one match up. I could go on and on about things I want to see but don’t.
The crazy thing here is that the Saints have PLAYMAKERS to make this work.

AK, Shaheed (not targeted once on yesterday), Olave, Miller, Taysom Hill.

I don't know what the OC's name down in Miami is, however his play selection is creative as hell.
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:22 PM   #106
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Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

Originally Posted by iceshack149 View Post
I think Josh Johnson and Jameis Winston are the same guy. Kinda like Guido and shawnkytonk. Winston will have to suffice until Carr comes back and this O-line has to figure out how to do better soon.
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:23 PM   #107
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
Even if Grupe makes that kick, there's 1:10 on the clock and the Packers have 2-3 timeouts.

Theres no way our defense that just allowed 18 straight points would have stopped them.

As soon as the Packers went no huddle and we didn't adjust, this script was written and we were in trouble.
We would have picked Love off trying to force a play to end the game had Grupe made the kick.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:31 PM   #108
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
We would have picked Love off trying to force a play to end the game had Grupe made the kick.
But he didn’t, so we didn’t. The game is not called hypothesis. It’s football, and we weren’t prepared to protect a 17 point lead. It shouldn’t have come down to that missed kick.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:38 PM   #109
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But he didn’t, so we didn’t. The game is not called hypothesis. It’s football, and we weren’t prepared to protect a 17 point lead. It shouldn’t have come down to that missed kick.
But it did. There's nothing you or I can do or say to change that. Is this not correct? I choose to don my rose colored glasses while you choose the fecal tinted ones instead. It's each to his own. I understand you look at and expect the worst. Doesn't mean I'll ever understand why. And I'll always look for the best in everything. I hope someday you can understand why.

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Old 09-25-2023, 07:44 PM   #110
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
But it did. There's nothing you or I can do or say to change that. Is this not correct? I choose to don my rose colored glasses while you choose the fecal tinted ones instead. It's each to his own. I understand you look at and expect the worst. Doesn't mean I'll ever understand why. And I'll always look for the best in everything. I hope someday you can understand why.

Who Dat, Brother!

Do rose colored glasses change the score, and turn an L into a W? I’m not wearing glasses. I see facts. We’re in trouble. I saw this coming last year, without any glasses on, and here we are.
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