Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

dizzle88 · 09-26-2023, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We would have picked Love off trying to force a play to end the game had Grupe made the kick.

Nah, this D couldn't get to Love and the receivers were wide open.

Marshon just stood and watched during the 2 pointer.

A successful kick would not have won this game for us, unless we were able to run the clock out.

K Major · 09-25-2023, 08:23 PM

Watching the Eagles/Bucs game.

Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield.

Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football.

Bucs have no answer.

Sinner · 09-25-2023, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Watching the Eagles/Bucs game.

Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield.

Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football.

Bucs have no answer.

It’s like watching a football game…

rezburna · 09-25-2023, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Watching the Eagles/Bucs game.

Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield.

Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football.

Bucs have no answer.

While we’re still running the Drew Brees offense with no Brees. At this point they might as well go I Formation with max protection and see if they can play physical football since they refuse to implement the concepts of teams like SF, Philly, and Miami.

BakoSaint · 09-26-2023, 10:14 AM

I actually agree that we would have picked Love off and returned it 99 yards for a Pick 6, but then we would see a flag at the 1 yard line, call would be pass interference on Yidiam negating INT, then Packers would kick a chip shot to win as time expires. Thats kind of the way it goes.

rezburna · 09-26-2023, 10:19 AM

Isaac was our highest graded player on defense. He really played a great game, especially for a backup.

K Major · 09-26-2023, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Isaac was our highest graded player on defense. He really played a great game, especially for a backup.

I thought he performed well but after watching the replay ... LaFleur kept attacking him in the red zone however Dennis never gave the kid any help?

The lack of a pass rush (Love was barely touched) didn't help our corners either.

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2023, 11:52 AM

This makes so much sense and is on coaching. When bringing in an extra lineman you weaken the edge by adding the weaker player outside of the starting tackle. By placing him inside the tackle you add an extra blocker without weakening the edge. By the way, this is from Derek's brother, Darren, who is the head coach of a high school team.

You can see here that the defender beats the added player outside of Ramczyk on the right. It looks like it may have been Young.

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K Major · 09-26-2023, 11:56 AM

Landon Young has no business playing outside of Ramz.

He's too slow, has poor hand placement and technique.

Easy sack. All eyes on Dougie Marrone.

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2023, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Landon Young has no business playing outside of Ramz.

He's too slow, has poor hand placement and technique.

Easy sack. All eyes on Dougie Marrone.

Exactly what Darren Carr was saying. Our players don't just suddenly suck out of nowhere. They seem to be being misused and/or "mis-coached".

09-26-2023, 02:59 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,548	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We would have picked Love off trying to force a play to end the game had Grupe made the kick. Nah, this D couldn't get to Love and the receivers were wide open. Marshon just stood and watched during the 2 pointer. A successful kick would not have won this game for us, unless we were able to run the clock out. Sinner likes this.

09-25-2023, 08:23 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,853 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Watching the Eagles/Bucs game. Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield. Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football. Bucs have no answer. jnormand and Sinner like this.

09-25-2023, 08:28 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by K Major Watching the Eagles/Bucs game. Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield. Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football. Bucs have no answer. It’s like watching a football game… jnormand and K Major like this.
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09-25-2023, 08:48 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,126	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by K Major Watching the Eagles/Bucs game. Notice how Philly OC keeps attacking downfield. Methodical, smashing , old school 90s football. Bucs have no answer. While we’re still running the Drew Brees offense with no Brees. At this point they might as well go I Formation with max protection and see if they can play physical football since they refuse to implement the concepts of teams like SF, Philly, and Miami. Sinner and K Major like this.

09-26-2023, 10:14 AM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,433	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers I actually agree that we would have picked Love off and returned it 99 yards for a Pick 6, but then we would see a flag at the 1 yard line, call would be pass interference on Yidiam negating INT, then Packers would kick a chip shot to win as time expires. Thats kind of the way it goes. Sinner and K Major like this.
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09-26-2023, 10:19 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,126	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Isaac was our highest graded player on defense. He really played a great game, especially for a backup. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

09-26-2023, 10:36 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,853 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by rezburna Isaac was our highest graded player on defense. He really played a great game, especially for a backup. I thought he performed well but after watching the replay ... LaFleur kept attacking him in the red zone however Dennis never gave the kid any help? The lack of a pass rush (Love was barely touched) didn't help our corners either. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-26-2023, 11:52 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers This makes so much sense and is on coaching. When bringing in an extra lineman you weaken the edge by adding the weaker player outside of the starting tackle. By placing him inside the tackle you add an extra blocker without weakening the edge. By the way, this is from Derek's brother, Darren, who is the head coach of a high school team. Twitter You can see here that the defender beats the added player outside of Ramczyk on the right. It looks like it may have been Young. MatthewT and BakoSaint like this.

09-26-2023, 11:56 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,853 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Landon Young has no business playing outside of Ramz. He's too slow, has poor hand placement and technique. Easy sack. All eyes on Dougie Marrone.

09-26-2023, 11:58 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by K Major Landon Young has no business playing outside of Ramz. He's too slow, has poor hand placement and technique. Easy sack. All eyes on Dougie Marrone. Exactly what Darren Carr was saying. Our players don't just suddenly suck out of nowhere. They seem to be being misused and/or "mis-coached".