Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Get over this crap, Bako. It never ends. Losing is bad enough but then to have to come in here and see your same tired rhetoric makes me want to throw up. Nothing personal, but it gets really old.

That was not an answer to my question, because there isn't an answer. The dirty truth behind Mickeynomics post-Brees with 100% leverage is that if a big contract goes south, we have no out. Especially Carr. He has all the leverage. I always said that was a bad idea, and you can't expect not to hear it.

Also, I seem to recall the Jets losing a QB earlier this year. And they didn't have a lead. And their backup is worse. And they were playing a much better opponent. But their head coach and OC, those guys are better. And so they won. So yeah, you can weather a shock. You can still win. But you need a leader. Dennis Allen is lieutenant, a solid DC. He ain't a leader. He is what would have happened to the Jets if Hackett was the head coach in that game not the OC.

Papa Voodoo · 09-24-2023, 04:17 PM

Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh.

stickman · 09-24-2023, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh.

He makes that kick and the Packers have over a minute to drive for a field goal of their own. Given our defenses performance over that last quarter, I think Green Bay would have had a shot at their own field goal.

K Major · 09-24-2023, 04:27 PM

You can’t score 20 points in a game ? With those WRs? Hill? Jimmy (redzone)? That’s on coaching.

Bad coordinator, oline = L’s on Sunday.

LivnaLieTimay · 09-24-2023, 04:27 PM

Simply put, you can’t blow 17 point leads in the 4th quarter. These are the losses that come back to haunt you so the end of year. This was an embarrassing loss.

The coaching staff was badly out coached today. GB had tons of injuries and we didn’t exploit them. GB made the adjustments and we had no answer.

Sinner · 09-24-2023, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

Simply put, you can’t blow 17 point leads in the 4th quarter. These are the losses that come back to haunt you so the end of year. This was an embarrassing loss.

The coaching staff was badly out coached today. GB had tons of injuries and we didn’t exploit them. GB made the adjustments and we had no answer.

THIS ^^^ RIGHT HERE.

blackangold · 09-24-2023, 04:39 PM

Hearing Carr is done for the season. Was at the game and overheard some cops on the way out saying his x rays came back and he is probably done for the year, think he mentioned collar bone being broken….

Oh well, was a fun game to be on attendance for but same ole Saints.

Danno · 09-24-2023, 04:41 PM

O-Line. 90% of this loss is due to an awful O-line, which like most said was gonna get our QB killed. Can't run, no time to pass.

We'd better sign another backup QB because Winston won't last long either and Haener (sp?) is out 3 more games.

We only scored 10 freaking points against a banged up Packer team.

If the O-line doesn't improve drastically we're an 8 loss team.

Sinner · 09-24-2023, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

O-Line. 90% of this loss is due to an awful O-line, which like most said was gonna get our QB killed. Can't run, no time to pass.

We'd better sign another backup QB because Winston won't last long either and Haener (sp?) is out 3 more games.

We only scored 10 freaking points against a banged up Packer team.

If the O-line doesn't improve drastically we're an 8 loss team.

Not looking good…

voodooido · 09-24-2023, 05:09 PM

Dennis Allen crapped the bed. Whether or not he called the plays doesn’t matter. He let the oc csll those plays in the 4th. JW does not have the team. Looked like the air was let out when Carr hit hurt and he took over. Defense played good until Green Bay saw #27 on the field. He was abused like a stray dog. 67 out of their 80 yard td drive was PI calls.

09-24-2023, 04:28 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Get over this crap, Bako. It never ends. Losing is bad enough but then to have to come in here and see your same tired rhetoric makes me want to throw up. Nothing personal, but it gets really old. That was not an answer to my question, because there isn't an answer. The dirty truth behind Mickeynomics post-Brees with 100% leverage is that if a big contract goes south, we have no out. Especially Carr. He has all the leverage. I always said that was a bad idea, and you can't expect not to hear it. Also, I seem to recall the Jets losing a QB earlier this year. And they didn't have a lead. And their backup is worse. And they were playing a much better opponent. But their head coach and OC, those guys are better. And so they won. So yeah, you can weather a shock. You can still win. But you need a leader. Dennis Allen is lieutenant, a solid DC. He ain't a leader. He is what would have happened to the Jets if Hackett was the head coach in that game not the OC. Sinner and Rell&Gold like this.
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09-24-2023, 05:25 PM	#3
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,799	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh. He makes that kick and the Packers have over a minute to drive for a field goal of their own. Given our defenses performance over that last quarter, I think Green Bay would have had a shot at their own field goal. Halo, MatthewT, neugey and 5 others like this.

09-24-2023, 04:27 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers You can’t score 20 points in a game ? With those WRs? Hill? Jimmy (redzone)? That’s on coaching. Bad coordinator, oline = L’s on Sunday. Rsanders24, SmashMouth, darstep and 2 others like this.

09-24-2023, 04:27 PM	#5
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,499	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Simply put, you can’t blow 17 point leads in the 4th quarter. These are the losses that come back to haunt you so the end of year. This was an embarrassing loss. The coaching staff was badly out coached today. GB had tons of injuries and we didn’t exploit them. GB made the adjustments and we had no answer. iceshack149, leilung, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

09-24-2023, 04:29 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay Simply put, you can’t blow 17 point leads in the 4th quarter. These are the losses that come back to haunt you so the end of year. This was an embarrassing loss. The coaching staff was badly out coached today. GB had tons of injuries and we didn’t exploit them. GB made the adjustments and we had no answer. THIS ^^^ RIGHT HERE. leilung, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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09-24-2023, 04:17 PM	#2
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh. Rsanders24, leilung and shawnkytonk like this.

09-24-2023, 04:39 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Hearing Carr is done for the season. Was at the game and overheard some cops on the way out saying his x rays came back and he is probably done for the year, think he mentioned collar bone being broken…. Oh well, was a fun game to be on attendance for but same ole Saints.

09-24-2023, 04:41 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers O-Line. 90% of this loss is due to an awful O-line, which like most said was gonna get our QB killed. Can't run, no time to pass. We'd better sign another backup QB because Winston won't last long either and Haener (sp?) is out 3 more games. We only scored 10 freaking points against a banged up Packer team. If the O-line doesn't improve drastically we're an 8 loss team. Papa Voodoo, dizzle88, Sinner and 2 others like this.

09-24-2023, 04:49 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Danno O-Line. 90% of this loss is due to an awful O-line, which like most said was gonna get our QB killed. Can't run, no time to pass. We'd better sign another backup QB because Winston won't last long either and Haener (sp?) is out 3 more games. We only scored 10 freaking points against a banged up Packer team. If the O-line doesn't improve drastically we're an 8 loss team. Not looking good…
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09-24-2023, 05:09 PM	#10
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Dennis Allen crapped the bed. Whether or not he called the plays doesn’t matter. He let the oc csll those plays in the 4th. JW does not have the team. Looked like the air was let out when Carr hit hurt and he took over. Defense played good until Green Bay saw #27 on the field. He was abused like a stray dog. 67 out of their 80 yard td drive was PI calls. Sinner likes this.
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