Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs

10-01-2023, 04:35 PM

Out of the weeds, watching the trends.

1. There is no leadership
2. We know why Sean called plays and why no one stole Pete.
3. It has been 7 Quarters of football since we scored a TD.
4. Defense has allowed 44 points the last 5 quarters of football.

I was scoffed at when I said making Dennis Allen HC weakened us both offensively and defensively. We have good players but they can’t overcome bad play calling

I really wish I were wrong.

papz · 10-01-2023, 04:43 PM

There was a reason why some of us wanted a total reboot prior to signing Carr. With that ship sailed, we just have to deal with it. Draft explosive young talent(I wanted Achane so bad), look for innovative offensive coordinator, build up that offensive line, and build some depth behind our aging defensive stars.

That sounds so depressing. There’s so much work that needs to be done. How we won those two ugly wins were not sustainable over a course a a season. You can dress the pig up as much as you want and it’s still a pig.

neugey · 10-01-2023, 04:47 PM

This is what happens when your team is coached by gomers.

mapcow · 10-01-2023, 04:51 PM

All sorts of positive insights to take away from this fine display of losing.

WW_Who_Dat · 10-01-2023, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Out of the weeds, watching the trends.

1. There is no leadership
2. We know why Sean called plays and why no one stole Pete.
3. It has been 7 Quarters of football since we scored a TD.
4. Defense has allowed 44 points the last 5 quarters of football.

I was scoffed at when I said making Dennis Allen HC weakened us both offensively and defensively. We have good players but they can’t overcome bad play calling

I really wish I were wrong.

I had misgiving but was willing to give DA/PC 1 last chance … My support was a mistake … At this point nothing to lose clean house with different coaching what we really have for talent … Should be on phone to Gruden ASAP.

The defense can’t defend a 9 point juggernaut offense.

WW_Who_Dat · 10-01-2023, 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=TheOak;982042]Out of the weeds, watching the trends.

1. There is no leadership
2. We know why Sean called plays and why no one stole Pete.
3. It has been 7 Quarters of football since we scored a TD.
4. Defense has allowed 44 points the last 5 quarters of football.

I was scoffed at when I said making Dennis Allen HC weakened us both offensively and defensively. We have good players but they can’t overcome bad play calling

I really wish I were wrong.

I had misgiving but was willing to give DA/PC 1 last chance … My support was a mistake … At this point nothing to lose clean house with different coaching and see what we really have for talent … Should be on phone to Gruden ASAP.

The defense can’t defend a 9 point juggernaut offense.

Sinner · 10-01-2023, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

All sorts of positive insights to take away from this fine display of losing.

Yeah… “they made improvements to the stadium…” LMFAO

K Major · 10-01-2023, 05:01 PM

How can DCarr throw damn near 40 times and not eclipse 200 yards & 0 TDs? Raider fans were on to something.

He's average folks. Nothing special.

And it's time for Ronald Curry to take over the play calling.

BakoSaint · 10-01-2023, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

How can DCarr throw damn near 40 times and not eclipse 200 yards & 0 TDs? Raider fans were on to something.

He's average folks. Nothing special.

And it's time for Ronald Curry to take over the play calling.

It would be horrible mistake to let Curry call plays without firing Carmichael. What if Curry is good and we win some games? The end results is Curry saves Carmichael and DA's jobs, then at the end of the season Curry signs with a division rival as OC and we are back to Carmichael and DA and the same sorry result. If Carmichael needs someone junior to him to call plays, Carmichael needs to be gone and that person needs the OC title.

WW_Who_Dat · 10-01-2023, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Yeah… “they made improvements to the stadium…” LMFAO

Quick getaway exits … high speed escalators.

10-01-2023, 04:35 PM	#11
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10-01-2023, 04:43 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs before Halftime… There was a reason why some of us wanted a total reboot prior to signing Carr. With that ship sailed, we just have to deal with it. Draft explosive young talent(I wanted Achane so bad), look for innovative offensive coordinator, build up that offensive line, and build some depth behind our aging defensive stars. That sounds so depressing. There’s so much work that needs to be done. How we won those two ugly wins were not sustainable over a course a a season. You can dress the pig up as much as you want and it’s still a pig. saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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10-01-2023, 04:47 PM	#13
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs This is what happens when your team is coached by gomers. Rugby Saint II, Sinner, K Major and 1 others like this.

10-01-2023, 04:51 PM	#14
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs All sorts of positive insights to take away from this fine display of losing. jnormand and Sinner like this.
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10-01-2023, 04:53 PM	#15
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs Originally Posted by TheOak Out of the weeds, watching the trends. 1. There is no leadership 2. We know why Sean called plays and why no one stole Pete. 3. It has been 7 Quarters of football since we scored a TD. 4. Defense has allowed 44 points the last 5 quarters of football. I was scoffed at when I said making Dennis Allen HC weakened us both offensively and defensively. We have good players but they can’t overcome bad play calling I really wish I were wrong. I had misgiving but was willing to give DA/PC 1 last chance … My support was a mistake … At this point nothing to lose clean house with different coaching what we really have for talent … Should be on phone to Gruden ASAP. The defense can’t defend a 9 point juggernaut offense.

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10-01-2023, 04:54 PM	#17
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10-01-2023, 05:01 PM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs How can DCarr throw damn near 40 times and not eclipse 200 yards & 0 TDs? Raider fans were on to something. He's average folks. Nothing special. And it's time for Ronald Curry to take over the play calling. Rell&Gold likes this.

10-01-2023, 05:07 PM	#19
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major How can DCarr throw damn near 40 times and not eclipse 200 yards & 0 TDs? Raider fans were on to something. He's average folks. Nothing special. And it's time for Ronald Curry to take over the play calling. It would be horrible mistake to let Curry call plays without firing Carmichael. What if Curry is good and we win some games? The end results is Curry saves Carmichael and DA's jobs, then at the end of the season Curry signs with a division rival as OC and we are back to Carmichael and DA and the same sorry result. If Carmichael needs someone junior to him to call plays, Carmichael needs to be gone and that person needs the OC title. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.
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