COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…”

BakoSaint · 10-15-2023, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

"Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching

Pete Carmichael's job under Sean Payton was getting Sean coffee and Pete always executed getting coffee. All DA is expecting is Pete to execute running an NFL offense too. He just needs to think of the football as the Starbucks cup holder and the end zone as Sean Payton's desk and he can be successful. How hard can it be?

K Major · 10-15-2023, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

"Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching

You’re probably right however at some point coaches learn how to use their talent effectively. Carmichael has no clue how to call the right plays for the situations our offense finds themselves.

That last drive in the 4th quarter …

We call 4 perimeter vertical passes from the 30 yard line and tried nothing in the middle of the field even with enough time and a time out.

I truly believe coaching is the biggest issue thus far.

Oh well, we have a short week and play a team that can put up points.

Sinner · 10-15-2023, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Direct quote from the HC today post game :

Dennis Allen: “If we’re not executing our jobs, then we need to find somebody else to execute those jobs. It don’t matter who you are.”

OK, so you getting rid of Pete Carmichael right?

Execute Dennis Allen at the job as Head Coach… toooooNIGHT!

WW_Who_Dat · 10-15-2023, 05:21 PM

We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297
We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177
Rushing yards … 89 to 120
Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0
First downs 24 to 19
3rd 6/15 to 4/11
Total plays 78 to 60
Sacks allowed 2 to 2
Punts 3 to 5
Penalties 7(83) to 3(29)
Fumbles 1 to 0
Interceptions 1 to 1
Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27

We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row.

0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties.

Personally done with these 2 coaches.

leilung · 10-15-2023, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297
We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177
Rushing yards … 89 to 120
Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0
First downs 24 to 19
3rd 6/15 to 4/11
Total plays 78 to 60
Sacks allowed 2 to 2
Punts 3 to 5
Penalties 7(83) to 3(29)
Fumbles 1 to 0
Interceptions 1 to 1
Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27

We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row.

0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties.

Personally done with these 2 coaches.

It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points.

Sinner · 10-15-2023, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points.

Yeah scoring touchdowns… and field goals, is a big part of the game.

bobdog86 · 10-15-2023, 08:32 PM

DA keeps this up, may not/should not be up to him.

voodooido · 10-16-2023, 10:45 AM

He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification.

Sinner · 10-16-2023, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification.

It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon.

Rugby Saint II · 10-16-2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon.

Maybe.....just maybe.....DA thinks he can save his job if he promotes Ronald Curry.

10-15-2023, 04:30 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by Danno "Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching Pete Carmichael's job under Sean Payton was getting Sean coffee and Pete always executed getting coffee. All DA is expecting is Pete to execute running an NFL offense too. He just needs to think of the football as the Starbucks cup holder and the end zone as Sean Payton's desk and he can be successful. How hard can it be?
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10-15-2023, 04:34 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,794 Blog Entries: 3	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by Danno "Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching You’re probably right however at some point coaches learn how to use their talent effectively. Carmichael has no clue how to call the right plays for the situations our offense finds themselves. That last drive in the 4th quarter … We call 4 perimeter vertical passes from the 30 yard line and tried nothing in the middle of the field even with enough time and a time out. I truly believe coaching is the biggest issue thus far. Oh well, we have a short week and play a team that can put up points. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

10-15-2023, 05:02 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,064	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by K Major Direct quote from the HC today post game : Dennis Allen: “If we’re not executing our jobs, then we need to find somebody else to execute those jobs. It don’t matter who you are.” OK, so you getting rid of Pete Carmichael right? Execute Dennis Allen at the job as Head Coach… toooooNIGHT! K Major likes this.
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10-15-2023, 05:21 PM	#4
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,277 Blog Entries: 1	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297 We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177 Rushing yards … 89 to 120 Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0 First downs 24 to 19 3rd 6/15 to 4/11 Total plays 78 to 60 Sacks allowed 2 to 2 Punts 3 to 5 Penalties 7(83) to 3(29) Fumbles 1 to 0 Interceptions 1 to 1 Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27 We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row. 0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties. Personally done with these 2 coaches. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

10-15-2023, 05:27 PM	#5
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,421	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297 We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177 Rushing yards … 89 to 120 Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0 First downs 24 to 19 3rd 6/15 to 4/11 Total plays 78 to 60 Sacks allowed 2 to 2 Punts 3 to 5 Penalties 7(83) to 3(29) Fumbles 1 to 0 Interceptions 1 to 1 Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27 We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row. 0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties. Personally done with these 2 coaches. It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points.

10-15-2023, 07:04 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,064	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by leilung It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points. Yeah scoring touchdowns… and field goals, is a big part of the game.
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10-15-2023, 08:32 PM	#7
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10-16-2023, 10:45 AM	#8
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,832	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification.
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10-16-2023, 12:29 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,064	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by voodooido He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification. It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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10-16-2023, 01:09 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…” Originally Posted by Sinner It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon. Maybe.....just maybe.....DA thinks he can save his job if he promotes Ronald Curry.

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