AsylumGuido

Do we need to win 68-0 for the haters to give any credit? Probably not. It's like we win and it pisses the haters off even more like they want us to lose so they have more to ***** about.



Oh, well.

I thought we played a great game on the road and Carr looked like the shoulder was much better off this week.

Sinner

No, we don’t need to win 68 - 0 in order to get cred… we need to play consistently GOOD FOOTBALL against ALL opponents, week after week. We have tremendous talent, a mediocre QB with an improved shoulder, and a lackluster coaching staff, who are going to get to rest on this one laurel, due to beating a tired chess master with bad chess pieces.

We don’t hate. We pay attention. We ARE paying attention. We are diehard Saints Fans.

SaintFanInATLHELL

Guido have you not figured it out yet? There's nothing this team can do to get some to see that the Saints have any worth. To them it is constructed wrong with the wrong people in it. So, short of blowing the whole thing up, getting rid of all the current people and starting over from scratch, will they think the team has no value.

And they poke at you in particular because you're exactly the opposite. Regardless of record, or how they've recently played, or the current construction of the team, you will look to the Saints with hopeful optimism. They see a train wreck. You see an opportunity to improve the landscape grateful that no one was killed.

Just leave them alone man. You can't win. They write furiously about how contracts are constructed in such a way that it's difficult to get rid of what they consider "problem" players who are not model citizens in their eyes, and coaches and front office that have established life long relationships to each other and the owner. None of that has value to them, and it hinders their ability to blow up the whole thing and start over.

So, win or lose, season or off-season, no matter what the move is, it's wrong to them. And it's never going to change. So, go on back and put them on ignore once again so you don't have to be bothered with it.

They are a lot like my brother. To him, the most beautiful drive in Saints history is the last 8:00 in the 4th quarter where Deuce shoved the ball right down the Eagles throats in the playoffs. Total domination running the ball. He desperately wants every Saints team to be that 24/7. The play last year where Taysom lined up with a fullback and 3 TE's:

https://youtu.be/lp088n_H2pI?si=7s__EUemHDNkLkEr&t=169

is absolutely the best play in Saints history to him. Pete Carmichael drives him absolutely nuts because this type of power football is not used in obvious situations.
So my brother complains, and complains, and complains. And I keep explaining that it's simply not in Carmichael's playcalling DNA, that we have 16 years of evidence of that, and that it's not going to change. It's exactly the same way for the haters. This has been the Saints for over 20 years, and it's not going to change. So, they will continue to complain, complain, and complain no matter what happens today or tomorrow. Now, I have to deal with my brother. I mean, he's my brother. But you (we, anyone here) really don't need to deal with the folks that are convinced that the Saints are a trash heap.

SFIAH

Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO

Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

mapcow

no hater.... and i gave credit; read my post again.