Observations from the Saints win vs Colts

Halo · 10-29-2023, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

There is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He missed Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going.

THIS IS REAL AND TRUE!
I only disagree on 1 point. Carr is somehow on the same page with Shaheed. Olave and MT, Carr struggles. Crazy. Just keep getting better. I've watched some "unstoppable" teams lay some eggs. It's the NFL.

BakoSaint · 10-29-2023, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better.

Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers.

We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B.

Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside.

Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going.

Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all.

There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league.

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all.

There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league.

SF just lost to Cleveland and Minnesota back to back. They might lose to the Bengals today resulting in three L’s in a row. They are the worse match up for us stylistically though. However, their stars are injury prone and Purdy ain’t all that.

Dallas hasn’t beat any impressive teams. Jets without Rodgers? They lost to the Cardinals. They got dismantled by the 49ers. They beat the same bad Pats team we did. Giants? Chargers? Rams? Nah…they haven’t beat a very good team. Styles make fights. Two weeks ago we lose this game and don’t convert in the red zone. We have to acknowledge improvement just as much as we acknowledge failure. Colts have played everybody tough this year.

TheOak · 10-30-2023, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court.

You are underestimating how much luck there actually is in football. It’s why you dress 46 to field 11, it’s why the phrase ‘any given Sunday’ is not a myth, it’s why dream-teams often go .500, it is why with rare exception the Super Bowl winners and MVPs are almost never back to back seasons.

In 2009 Sean Payton had a whole pallet of horseshoes up his ass.

Sinner · 10-29-2023, 04:38 PM

HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED.

THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY.

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED.

THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY.

Speaking of Kamara, a crossing route to clear out with Kamara on a Texas coming right behind it is easy yards whenever they want it.

Pete · 10-29-2023, 05:23 PM

Is the tide Turning?

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Pete

Is the tide Turning?

There’s room for optimism. They damn near put up 40. Olave makes that catch and they do.

Pete · 10-29-2023, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

There’s room for optimism. They damn near put up 40. Olave makes that catch and they do.

These cats ain't losers man.
It's taking a minute..

Hanging onto hope

neugey · 10-29-2023, 05:40 PM

At the risk of sounding like an ambulance chaser, I think we need to talk trade with the Vikings and deal Jameis with Cousins going down. They have Hockensen and three excellent WR's to throw to once Jefferson comes back. I think Jameis is a good fit for what they do, and there's no point in keeping him with him unfairly buried in our doghouse.

I know it's not wise to help a team coming up on our schedule, but that does give us some more leverage in negotiations. Getting O-line help, swapping punters or getting lower round picks would seem alright.

10-29-2023, 04:26 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,890 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by rezburna There is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He missed Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going. THIS IS REAL AND TRUE! I only disagree on 1 point. Carr is somehow on the same page with Shaheed. Olave and MT, Carr struggles. Crazy. Just keep getting better. I've watched some "unstoppable" teams lay some eggs. It's the NFL. Crusader, rezburna and shawnkytonk like this.

10-29-2023, 04:50 PM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,385	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by rezburna First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going. Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all. There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league. Sinner likes this.
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10-29-2023, 05:04 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by BakoSaint Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all. There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league. SF just lost to Cleveland and Minnesota back to back. They might lose to the Bengals today resulting in three L’s in a row. They are the worse match up for us stylistically though. However, their stars are injury prone and Purdy ain’t all that. Dallas hasn’t beat any impressive teams. Jets without Rodgers? They lost to the Cardinals. They got dismantled by the 49ers. They beat the same bad Pats team we did. Giants? Chargers? Rams? Nah…they haven’t beat a very good team. Styles make fights. Two weeks ago we lose this game and don’t convert in the red zone. We have to acknowledge improvement just as much as we acknowledge failure. Colts have played everybody tough this year. Crusader, leilung, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.
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10-30-2023, 03:07 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by BakoSaint Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. You are underestimating how much luck there actually is in football. It’s why you dress 46 to field 11, it’s why the phrase ‘any given Sunday’ is not a myth, it’s why dream-teams often go .500, it is why with rare exception the Super Bowl winners and MVPs are almost never back to back seasons. In 2009 Sean Payton had a whole pallet of horseshoes up his ass. UK_WhoDat, jnormand, Danno and 3 others like this.

10-29-2023, 04:38 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED. THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY. jnormand likes this.
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10-29-2023, 04:42 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by Sinner HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED. THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY. Speaking of Kamara, a crossing route to clear out with Kamara on a Texas coming right behind it is easy yards whenever they want it. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

10-29-2023, 05:23 PM	#7
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,757	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Is the tide Turning?

10-29-2023, 05:24 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by Pete Is the tide Turning? There’s room for optimism. They damn near put up 40. Olave makes that catch and they do. Crusader, SmashMouth and Pete like this.

10-29-2023, 05:35 PM	#9
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,757	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by rezburna There’s room for optimism. They damn near put up 40. Olave makes that catch and they do. These cats ain't losers man. It's taking a minute.. Hanging onto hope rezburna likes this.

10-29-2023, 05:40 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,853 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts At the risk of sounding like an ambulance chaser, I think we need to talk trade with the Vikings and deal Jameis with Cousins going down. They have Hockensen and three excellent WR's to throw to once Jefferson comes back. I think Jameis is a good fit for what they do, and there's no point in keeping him with him unfairly buried in our doghouse. I know it's not wise to help a team coming up on our schedule, but that does give us some more leverage in negotiations. Getting O-line help, swapping punters or getting lower round picks would seem alright.

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