Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left

NOLA54 · 12-13-2023, 05:07 PM

We will never get rid of Allen if they make the playoffs. I'm praying they don't win any more games.

bobdog86 · 12-13-2023, 05:17 PM

Unfortunately don't think this Pollyanna ownership/management group is going to whack the heads where needed whether we win or lose, so I'm rooting and hoping for the best. Expecting nothing.....either good or bad and that just sucks

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

We will never get rid of Allen if they make the playoffs. I'm praying they don't win any more games.

Hoping my prayers offset yours and Dennis Allen gets booted anyway.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hoping my prayers offset yours and Dennis Allen gets booted anyway.

By now it should be ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that Quido hasn’t figured out how things work (or don’t work) around here.

Rugby Saint II · 12-15-2023, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB.

I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC.

Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes.

Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah!

Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild.

A target rebuild is a spot on description of what we need rather than a rebuild or tear down.
Keep a few valuable assistant coaches and clear house at HC, DC, and OC, and Douggie Marrone to start. We should also look at fresh scouts to help Jeff Ireland rebuild his brand. He's been hit or miss lately.

[quote=Sinner;988355]Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…[/QUOTE

The players aren't gunshot but the coaches are brain dead.

Originally Posted by Sinner

We have a management problem. PERIOD.

Maybe. Maybe we have a coaching problem that influences a bean counter. When Payton did it that worked. Not now so much.

Originally Posted by Danno

True, but that doesn't require a team rebuild.

Rebuilds rarely work fast enough to suit the short sighted attention span of most fans who cry for change after just one year or two.

The Saints desperately need a system shake up and all new coches. I think Loomis isn't perfect but he's obviously very good and I don't know of one person who can do a better job. However, The Saints do need a stronger Alpha leadership football brain in upper management though.

12-13-2023, 05:07 PM	#61
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,702 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left We will never get rid of Allen if they make the playoffs. I'm praying they don't win any more games. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

12-13-2023, 05:17 PM	#62
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,329	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Unfortunately don't think this Pollyanna ownership/management group is going to whack the heads where needed whether we win or lose, so I'm rooting and hoping for the best. Expecting nothing.....either good or bad and that just sucks SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

12-13-2023, 05:18 PM	#63
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by NOLA54 We will never get rid of Allen if they make the playoffs. I'm praying they don't win any more games. Hoping my prayers offset yours and Dennis Allen gets booted anyway.

12-13-2023, 05:20 PM	#64
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hoping my prayers offset yours and Dennis Allen gets booted anyway. By now it should be ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that Quido hasn’t figured out how things work (or don’t work) around here. K Major likes this.
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12-15-2023, 03:59 PM	#65
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left Originally Posted by Danno I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB. I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC. Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes. Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah! Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild. A target rebuild is a spot on description of what we need rather than a rebuild or tear down. Keep a few valuable assistant coaches and clear house at HC, DC, and OC, and Douggie Marrone to start. We should also look at fresh scouts to help Jeff Ireland rebuild his brand. He's been hit or miss lately. [quote=Sinner;988355]Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…[/QUOTE The players aren't gunshot but the coaches are brain dead. Originally Posted by Sinner We have a management problem. PERIOD. Maybe. Maybe we have a coaching problem that influences a bean counter. When Payton did it that worked. Not now so much. Originally Posted by Danno True, but that doesn't require a team rebuild. Rebuilds rarely work fast enough to suit the short sighted attention span of most fans who cry for change after just one year or two. The Saints desperately need a system shake up and all new coches. I think Loomis isn't perfect but he's obviously very good and I don't know of one person who can do a better job. However, The Saints do need a stronger Alpha leadership football brain in upper management though.
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