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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB. ...

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Old 12-13-2023, 03:31 PM   #1
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Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left

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I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB.

I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC.

Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes.

Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah!

Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild.
Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…
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Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…
Define the gunshot wounds on our roster.
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Define the gunshot wounds on our roster.
“We have all the right people in the building” Mickey Loomis

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“We have all the right people in the building” Mickey Loomis

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Mickey isn't on the player roster. I was referencing the players we have.
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Mickey isn't on the player roster. I was referencing the players we have.
We have a management problem. PERIOD.
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We have a management problem. PERIOD.
True, but that doesn't require a team rebuild.
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True, but that doesn't require a team rebuild.
Y’all can bring your fly swatter to this bull fight all day. Watch the bullsh*t keep piling up… watch…maybe next year? Pathetic.
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Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
I don't think a rebuild is necessary. A targeted re-tooling may be a better option. We have some really good players on this team. Very few holes in my opinion, however one big hole is QB.

I'm also interested to see how Carr would do under a different OC.

Add some speed to the front 7 (especially LB), and a quality free-agent O-lineman and we'll be set to draft BPA when draft time comes.

Rebuild the coaching staff? Hell yeah!

Add more talent to the roster. No need to rebuild.
A target rebuild is a spot on description of what we need rather than a rebuild or tear down.
Keep a few valuable assistant coaches and clear house at HC, DC, and OC, and Douggie Marrone to start. We should also look at fresh scouts to help Jeff Ireland rebuild his brand. He's been hit or miss lately.

[quote=Sinner;988355]Y’all can keep talking about bandaids over gunshot wounds all you like. Watch what happens, or more importantly, what doesn’t happen. Gonna be a long while…[/QUOTE

The players aren't gunshot but the coaches are brain dead.


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We have a management problem. PERIOD.
Maybe. Maybe we have a coaching problem that influences a bean counter. When Payton did it that worked. Not now so much.

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
True, but that doesn't require a team rebuild.
Rebuilds rarely work fast enough to suit the short sighted attention span of most fans who cry for change after just one year or two.

The Saints desperately need a system shake up and all new coches. I think Loomis isn't perfect but he's obviously very good and I don't know of one person who can do a better job. However, The Saints do need a stronger Alpha leadership football brain in upper management though.

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