Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints

Rugby Saint II · 12-24-2023, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

When your scouts are more focused on a DE measurable being right than can he actually play is why there's no pressure. Davenport,Foskey,Turner. The scouting department t is still living off a draft 5/6 years ago

We definitely need to revisit our draft parameters this offseason. Our D-line dropped ten pounds to get leaner and faster. Now they are getting pushed all over the place. O-line scouting stinks. D-line scouting stinks. Running back scouting stinks. Tight end scouting stinks. And we draft slow LB'ers.

We do well with WR's and DB's though. So, it's kind of a mixed bag of nuts and dog crap. It kind of ruins the whole batch of goodies.

Edit: The RAS is great but it's not the holy grail. It doesn't give you anything but untapped potential. We had a boat load of potential and big busts. No thanks to drafting solely based on the players raw athletic scores. There are too many other variables that are just as important. Like heart. You can't measure heart. You have to study film.

lee909 · 12-24-2023, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We definitely need to revisit our draft parameters this offseason. Our D-line dropped ten pounds to get leaner and faster. Now they are getting pushed all over the place. O-line scouting stinks. D-line scouting stinks. Running back scouting stinks. Tight end scouting stinks. And we draft slow LB'ers.

We do well with WR's and DB's though. So, it's kind of a mixed bag of nuts and dog crap. It kind of ruins the whole batch of goodies.

Imo a league wide problem is how draft boards change from pro days to the draft.
It's all good putting up good numbers in shorts and running shoes, but football is t played without pads. Use it to separate close grades. But it's hilarious watching a 4th round pick on tape jump to a late day 1 pick before he runs a great 40, and jumps high

AsylumGuido · 12-27-2023, 05:45 PM

[quote=Rugby Saint II;989297]

Originally Posted by mapcow

more or less guaranteeing the contract with the dome until 2030, will be the end of the Saints in New Orleans. Allen has ushered in and will see through the ultimate demise of the New Orleans Saints.... Sad . Glad Drew and Sean won the Lombardi Trophy when they did. Like I've said before, when football was still played as a full contact sport. DA Gotta go.

That is some seriously funny stuff right there. The Saints aren't moving and we are hosting a Super bowl in 2025. Sometimes I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or not.

There is no way that you could really think that a two or possibly three year head coach can single handedly influence a team to relocate. And if anyone mentions San Antonio I'll stop and remember that even fools have opinions........ and I'm not always sure which one I am. So, I'll just laugh at them!

I mean, we survived bad coaching and hurricanes before and we're still the New Orleans Saints!

Let's step back and remember that we have great ownership with deep pockets, a gifted accounting system that gives us tens of millions of dollars on next year's salary cap increase. What we need is leadership in the draft room who value big schools and draft picks.

We also need a new HC, which means we need a new DC too. We are a winning organization and our record in the last twenty years looks pretty damn good. Gimme' a HC with some stones and a game plan and let's roll!

That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt.

Sinner · 12-27-2023, 06:09 PM

[quote=AsylumGuido;989484]

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt.

This Quido guy seems to be a master at taking salted fist-fulls. I’d pay attention to him if you like that kind of thing.

mapcow · 12-28-2023, 09:55 AM

[quote=Rugby Saint II;989297]

Originally Posted by mapcow

more or less guaranteeing the contract with the dome until 2030, will be the end of the Saints in New Orleans. Allen has ushered in and will see through the ultimate demise of the New Orleans Saints.... Sad . Glad Drew and Sean won the Lombardi Trophy when they did. Like I've said before, when football was still played as a full contact sport. DA Gotta go.

That is some seriously funny stuff right there. The Saints aren't moving and we are hosting a Super bowl in 2025. Sometimes I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or not.

There is no way that you could really think that a two or possibly three year head coach can single handedly influence a team to relocate. And if anyone mentions San Antonio I'll stop and remember that even fools have opinions........ and I'm not always sure which one I am. So, I'll just laugh at them!

I mean, we survived bad coaching and hurricanes before and we're still the New Orleans Saints!

Let's step back and remember that we have great ownership with deep pockets, a gifted accounting system that gives us tens of millions of dollars on next year's salary cap increase. What we need is leadership in the draft room who value big schools and draft picks.

We also need a new HC, which means we need a new DC too. We are a winning organization and our record in the last twenty years looks pretty damn good. Gimme' a HC with some stones and a game plan and let's roll!

Reality Moriarity...Reality...

Hell I knew Thomas was washed up 3 years ago....

mapcow · 12-28-2023, 09:56 AM

[quote=AsylumGuido;989484]

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt.

fisting.... new there was something different about ya.

Sinner · 12-28-2023, 12:15 PM

[quote=mapcow;989527]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

fisting.... new their was something different about ya.

Salted Fisting. Explains everything.

Rugby Saint II · 12-28-2023, 04:02 PM

[quote=AsylumGuido;989484]

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt.

Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest.

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2023, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest.

Optimism is a state of mind. As part of my optimism I never stress over anything that I myself cannot control.

As for the mapclown, I gave up on seeing any "constructive productive thought" many months ago which prompted his "ignore" status.

Sinner · 12-28-2023, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Optimism is a state of mind. As part of my optimism I never stress over anything that I myself cannot control.

As for the mapclown, I gave up on seeing any "constructive productive thought" many months ago which prompted his "ignore" status.

Once again, YOU, the paying customer, CAN control what your service provider provides, or FAILS to provide, by NOT paying for their services until they correct their policy. Similarly, on a deep energetic level, if you stop cheering on the sucky service, week after week, you send a message to the service provider that you are dissatisfied with the product. The problem is, you are completely satisfied.

12-24-2023, 02:52 PM	#21
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by lee909 When your scouts are more focused on a DE measurable being right than can he actually play is why there's no pressure. Davenport,Foskey,Turner. The scouting department t is still living off a draft 5/6 years ago We definitely need to revisit our draft parameters this offseason. Our D-line dropped ten pounds to get leaner and faster. Now they are getting pushed all over the place. O-line scouting stinks. D-line scouting stinks. Running back scouting stinks. Tight end scouting stinks. And we draft slow LB'ers. We do well with WR's and DB's though. So, it's kind of a mixed bag of nuts and dog crap. It kind of ruins the whole batch of goodies. Edit: The RAS is great but it's not the holy grail. It doesn't give you anything but untapped potential. We had a boat load of potential and big busts. No thanks to drafting solely based on the players raw athletic scores. There are too many other variables that are just as important. Like heart. You can't measure heart. You have to study film. iceshack149 likes this.
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12-24-2023, 02:56 PM	#22
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We definitely need to revisit our draft parameters this offseason. Our D-line dropped ten pounds to get leaner and faster. Now they are getting pushed all over the place. O-line scouting stinks. D-line scouting stinks. Running back scouting stinks. Tight end scouting stinks. And we draft slow LB'ers. We do well with WR's and DB's though. So, it's kind of a mixed bag of nuts and dog crap. It kind of ruins the whole batch of goodies. Imo a league wide problem is how draft boards change from pro days to the draft. It's all good putting up good numbers in shorts and running shoes, but football is t played without pads. Use it to separate close grades. But it's hilarious watching a 4th round pick on tape jump to a late day 1 pick before he runs a great 40, and jumps high Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-27-2023, 05:45 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=Rugby Saint II;989297] Originally Posted by mapcow more or less guaranteeing the contract with the dome until 2030, will be the end of the Saints in New Orleans. Allen has ushered in and will see through the ultimate demise of the New Orleans Saints.... Sad . Glad Drew and Sean won the Lombardi Trophy when they did. Like I've said before, when football was still played as a full contact sport. DA Gotta go. That is some seriously funny stuff right there. The Saints aren't moving and we are hosting a Super bowl in 2025. Sometimes I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or not. There is no way that you could really think that a two or possibly three year head coach can single handedly influence a team to relocate. And if anyone mentions San Antonio I'll stop and remember that even fools have opinions........ and I'm not always sure which one I am. So, I'll just laugh at them! I mean, we survived bad coaching and hurricanes before and we're still the New Orleans Saints! Let's step back and remember that we have great ownership with deep pockets, a gifted accounting system that gives us tens of millions of dollars on next year's salary cap increase. What we need is leadership in the draft room who value big schools and draft picks. We also need a new HC, which means we need a new DC too. We are a winning organization and our record in the last twenty years looks pretty damn good. Gimme' a HC with some stones and a game plan and let's roll! That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-27-2023, 06:09 PM	#24
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=AsylumGuido;989484] Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt. This Quido guy seems to be a master at taking salted fist-fulls. I’d pay attention to him if you like that kind of thing. K Major likes this.
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12-28-2023, 09:55 AM	#25
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=Rugby Saint II;989297] Originally Posted by mapcow more or less guaranteeing the contract with the dome until 2030, will be the end of the Saints in New Orleans. Allen has ushered in and will see through the ultimate demise of the New Orleans Saints.... Sad . Glad Drew and Sean won the Lombardi Trophy when they did. Like I've said before, when football was still played as a full contact sport. DA Gotta go. That is some seriously funny stuff right there. The Saints aren't moving and we are hosting a Super bowl in 2025. Sometimes I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or not. There is no way that you could really think that a two or possibly three year head coach can single handedly influence a team to relocate. And if anyone mentions San Antonio I'll stop and remember that even fools have opinions........ and I'm not always sure which one I am. So, I'll just laugh at them! I mean, we survived bad coaching and hurricanes before and we're still the New Orleans Saints! Let's step back and remember that we have great ownership with deep pockets, a gifted accounting system that gives us tens of millions of dollars on next year's salary cap increase. What we need is leadership in the draft room who value big schools and draft picks. We also need a new HC, which means we need a new DC too. We are a winning organization and our record in the last twenty years looks pretty damn good. Gimme' a HC with some stones and a game plan and let's roll! Reality Moriarity...Reality... Hell I knew Thomas was washed up 3 years ago.... Sinner likes this.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=AsylumGuido;989484] Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt. fisting.... new there was something different about ya. Sinner likes this.
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=mapcow;989527] Originally Posted by AsylumGuido fisting.... new their was something different about ya. Salted Fisting. Explains everything.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints [quote=AsylumGuido;989484] Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That mapclown guy is seriously disturbed from every indication, Rugs. I wouldn't take anything he says with anything but a fistful of salt. Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest. Sinner likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest. Optimism is a state of mind. As part of my optimism I never stress over anything that I myself cannot control. As for the mapclown, I gave up on seeing any "constructive productive thought" many months ago which prompted his "ignore" status.

12-28-2023, 04:26 PM	#30
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Optimism is a state of mind. As part of my optimism I never stress over anything that I myself cannot control. As for the mapclown, I gave up on seeing any "constructive productive thought" many months ago which prompted his "ignore" status. Once again, YOU, the paying customer, CAN control what your service provider provides, or FAILS to provide, by NOT paying for their services until they correct their policy. Similarly, on a deep energetic level, if you stop cheering on the sucky service, week after week, you send a message to the service provider that you are dissatisfied with the product. The problem is, you are completely satisfied.
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