Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints

Sinner · 12-30-2023, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field.

Why does this need to be excused away?

Cognitive Dissonance.

neugey · 12-30-2023, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field.

Why does this need to be excused away?

If Mickey bring DA and perhaps even Carmichael back next season, he is banking on retaining fans via Stockholm Syndrome.

AsylumGuido · 12-31-2023, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field.

Why does this need to be excused away?

You know when you sell your tickets you have no idea who's buying them.

Rugby Saint II · 12-30-2023, 02:11 PM

I wonder if Dennis Allen thinks he's in a good place? Lately, he's been getting pretty testy with the media these days who are asking some tougher questions.

dizzle88 · 12-31-2023, 11:34 AM

Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic"

Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic?

Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management.

Sinner · 12-31-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic"

Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic?

Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management.

BRUTAL TRUTH.

K Major · 12-31-2023, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic"

Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic?

Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management.

Empty seats in that re vamped dome for 2024 may get their attention.

K Major · 01-02-2024, 10:09 AM

I hope the Saints front office is looking at some of these college bowl games.

Notice how Penix (Washington) doesn't take on many sacks. Find a college coordinator that can scheme well. And Michigan's defense and coaches are good too.

Enough of these retread coaches and coordinators that can't consistently compete.

Keeping things "in tact" is why we are here again.

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2024, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hope the Saints front office is looking at some of these college bowl games.

Notice how Penix (Washington) doesn't take on many sacks. Find a college coordinator that can scheme well. And Michigan's defense and coaches are good too.

Enough of these retread coaches and coordinators that can't consistently compete.

Keeping things "in tact" is why we are here again.

We've done well in the past with bringing in successful college coaches. I wonder why we went away from that type of thinking?

Nevermind. We like retreads!

neugey · 01-02-2024, 02:04 PM

There's probably a 90+% chance DA will be the coach again next year. So I'm trying to find silver linings for 2024 on that. There are a few minor ones.

- While DA is a pretty incapable coach, I don't think he's toxic per-se and tries to run things and act in a manner that completely obliterates the locker room like a Josh McDaniels or Adam Gase.

- We have great leaders on the defensive side of the ball, most notably Demario Davis. Davis has fully taken over the player-leader role that was helmed by Brees at this point, and then some. If you stretch it far enough, it's possible some of Davis' vigor might improve DA's leadership abilities kicking and screaming by way of osmosis. Or at least we're at a point that when the players tune out DA they tune into Davis or the Honey Badger instead as opposed to tuning out altogether.

- The ceiling for DA is to be a caretaker in the mold of Jason Garrett where the players know he's not much to write home about but are generally loyal to him. If DA can do more to bond with his players we have a hope he will be this updated version of Garrett. Garrett at least had a winning record and heck, Garrett coached the Cowboys for 10 years. Surely if Cowboys fans could hold their nose and handle Garrett for 10 years, then we can get through DA for another 1-3 years, right? And by the end of it DA might have a career record in the .400-.500 range. That would actually be a remarkable rehabilitation.

12-30-2023, 04:33 PM	#1
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,083	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field. Why does this need to be excused away? Cognitive Dissonance.
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12-30-2023, 09:12 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,886 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field. Why does this need to be excused away? If Mickey bring DA and perhaps even Carmichael back next season, he is banking on retaining fans via Stockholm Syndrome.

12-31-2023, 10:00 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Saints fans would rather sell to visiting teams than watch the product on field. Why does this need to be excused away? You know when you sell your tickets you have no idea who's buying them.

12-30-2023, 02:11 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints I wonder if Dennis Allen thinks he's in a good place? Lately, he's been getting pretty testy with the media these days who are asking some tougher questions.

12-31-2023, 11:34 AM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,696	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic" Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic? Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management. iceshack149, Sinner and K Major like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,083	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic" Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic? Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management. BRUTAL TRUTH.
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12-31-2023, 12:29 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,920 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Twitter reporting Allen likely to return for third year "barring something drastic" Now hear me out here, how is a losing season vs the easiest schedule in the league, in the easiest division in the league, not drastic? Absolutely clueless clown show by Saints Management. Empty seats in that re vamped dome for 2024 may get their attention. Sinner likes this.

01-02-2024, 10:09 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,920 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints I hope the Saints front office is looking at some of these college bowl games. Notice how Penix (Washington) doesn't take on many sacks. Find a college coordinator that can scheme well. And Michigan's defense and coaches are good too. Enough of these retread coaches and coordinators that can't consistently compete. Keeping things "in tact" is why we are here again. neugey, Rugby Saint II, Sinner and 1 others like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by K Major I hope the Saints front office is looking at some of these college bowl games. Notice how Penix (Washington) doesn't take on many sacks. Find a college coordinator that can scheme well. And Michigan's defense and coaches are good too. Enough of these retread coaches and coordinators that can't consistently compete. Keeping things "in tact" is why we are here again. We've done well in the past with bringing in successful college coaches. I wonder why we went away from that type of thinking? Nevermind. We like retreads! Sinner and bobdog86 like this.

01-02-2024, 02:04 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,886 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints There's probably a 90+% chance DA will be the coach again next year. So I'm trying to find silver linings for 2024 on that. There are a few minor ones. - While DA is a pretty incapable coach, I don't think he's toxic per-se and tries to run things and act in a manner that completely obliterates the locker room like a Josh McDaniels or Adam Gase. - We have great leaders on the defensive side of the ball, most notably Demario Davis. Davis has fully taken over the player-leader role that was helmed by Brees at this point, and then some. If you stretch it far enough, it's possible some of Davis' vigor might improve DA's leadership abilities kicking and screaming by way of osmosis. Or at least we're at a point that when the players tune out DA they tune into Davis or the Honey Badger instead as opposed to tuning out altogether. - The ceiling for DA is to be a caretaker in the mold of Jason Garrett where the players know he's not much to write home about but are generally loyal to him. If DA can do more to bond with his players we have a hope he will be this updated version of Garrett. Garrett at least had a winning record and heck, Garrett coached the Cowboys for 10 years. Surely if Cowboys fans could hold their nose and handle Garrett for 10 years, then we can get through DA for another 1-3 years, right? And by the end of it DA might have a career record in the .400-.500 range. That would actually be a remarkable rehabilitation. AsylumGuido likes this.