Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints

iceshack149 · 12-28-2023, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest.

I used to be one of those optimists but this team sure does come across as apathetic. I refuse to believe that Gayle or anyone that is under her employ are serious about winning and will be especially dubious if they keep Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael.
Yes, I became comfortable when the Saints had an excellent team with Tom Benson, Sean Payton, and Drew Brees. Expecting greatness after their departure is absurd but I'd sure like to see some emotion and accountability from the new kids on the block.

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2023, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I used to be one of those optimists but this team sure does come across as apathetic. I refuse to believe that Gayle or anyone that is under her employ are serious about winning and will be especially dubious if they keep Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael.
Yes, I became comfortable when the Saints had an excellent team with Tom Benson, Sean Payton, and Drew Brees. Expecting greatness after their departure is absurd but I'd sure like to see some emotion and accountability from the new kids on the block.

I agree with much of that, but I seriously doubt anyone connected with the Saints, or any other NFL franchise for that matter, aren't serious about winning. We must not confuse ineptitude with lack of commitment.

Sinner · 12-28-2023, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree with much of that, but I seriously doubt anyone connected with the Saints, or any other NFL franchise for that matter, aren't serious about winning. We must not confuse ineptitude with lack of commitment.

There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning.

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2023, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning.

If they were serious about winning then they would have changed out Carmichael last year.

Nepotism at its finest!

Sinner · 12-29-2023, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If thy were serious about winning they would have changed out Carmichael last year.

Nepotism at its finest!

Our problem is much bigger than Carmichael.

K Major · 12-29-2023, 05:58 PM

I knew this team was in trouble for 2023 when no one was fired during the bye week. We've become such a passive franchise.

Maybe empty seats in the revamped dome will get someone's attention

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Sinner · 12-29-2023, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I knew this team was in trouble for 2023 when no one was fired during the bye week. We've become such a passive franchise.

Maybe empty seats in the revamped dome will get someone's attention .

That’s the only thing we have control over, except for Quido. He’ll still be there.

dizzle88 · 12-29-2023, 07:55 PM

The fact that Loomis blamed a sparse crowd on "economic difficulties" shows how out of touch and ignorant he is.

Any GM worth a damn, would have acknowledged that the fans deserve better and that change is needed to make the product desirable to ticket buyers. But nope, lets blame it on the economy when no one will buy a $5 ticket.

bobdog86 · 12-29-2023, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning.

So are you saying that every sub 500 team isn’t serious about winning? I think it’s a little more complicated than just deciding one day, if we decide to be serious we are all of a sudden going to start winning. At least if we clean house, we would at least have hope, where there is currently none, and there’s nothing worse than a lack of hope.

saintsfan1976 · 12-30-2023, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The fact that Loomis blamed a sparse crowd on "economic difficulties" shows how out of touch and ignorant he is.

Any GM worth a damn, would have acknowledged that the fans deserve better and that change is needed to make the product desirable to ticket buyers. But nope, lets blame it on the economy when no one will buy a $5 ticket.

So the economy in Detroit is better than New Orleans? Is that why so many Lions fans were in attendance?

12-28-2023, 05:14 PM	#31
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Sometimes he has a constructive productive thought. It's hard to be positive on the board these days. For one thing.....people poke fun at optimists now! However, there really isn't much to be optimistic about right now, to be honest. I used to be one of those optimists but this team sure does come across as apathetic. I refuse to believe that Gayle or anyone that is under her employ are serious about winning and will be especially dubious if they keep Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael. Yes, I became comfortable when the Saints had an excellent team with Tom Benson, Sean Payton, and Drew Brees. Expecting greatness after their departure is absurd but I'd sure like to see some emotion and accountability from the new kids on the block. Sinner likes this.

12-28-2023, 05:33 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by iceshack149 I used to be one of those optimists but this team sure does come across as apathetic. I refuse to believe that Gayle or anyone that is under her employ are serious about winning and will be especially dubious if they keep Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael. Yes, I became comfortable when the Saints had an excellent team with Tom Benson, Sean Payton, and Drew Brees. Expecting greatness after their departure is absurd but I'd sure like to see some emotion and accountability from the new kids on the block. I agree with much of that, but I seriously doubt anyone connected with the Saints, or any other NFL franchise for that matter, aren't serious about winning. We must not confuse ineptitude with lack of commitment.

12-28-2023, 05:37 PM	#33
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree with much of that, but I seriously doubt anyone connected with the Saints, or any other NFL franchise for that matter, aren't serious about winning. We must not confuse ineptitude with lack of commitment. There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning. K Major likes this.
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12-29-2023, 05:51 PM	#34
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Sinner There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning. If they were serious about winning then they would have changed out Carmichael last year. Nepotism at its finest!

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If thy were serious about winning they would have changed out Carmichael last year. Nepotism at its finest! Our problem is much bigger than Carmichael. Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and K Major like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints I knew this team was in trouble for 2023 when no one was fired during the bye week. We've become such a passive franchise. Maybe empty seats in the revamped dome will get someone's attention . dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by K Major I knew this team was in trouble for 2023 when no one was fired during the bye week. We've become such a passive franchise. Maybe empty seats in the revamped dome will get someone's attention . That’s the only thing we have control over, except for Quido. He’ll still be there. K Major likes this.
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12-29-2023, 07:55 PM	#38
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints The fact that Loomis blamed a sparse crowd on "economic difficulties" shows how out of touch and ignorant he is. Any GM worth a damn, would have acknowledged that the fans deserve better and that change is needed to make the product desirable to ticket buyers. But nope, lets blame it on the economy when no one will buy a $5 ticket. saintsfan1976, Sinner and K Major like this.

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bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by Sinner There is no confusion. Only a combination of ineptitude and a lack of commitment. If they were serious about winning, they would be winning. So are you saying that every sub 500 team isn’t serious about winning? I think it’s a little more complicated than just deciding one day, if we decide to be serious we are all of a sudden going to start winning. At least if we clean house, we would at least have hope, where there is currently none, and there’s nothing worse than a lack of hope.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Dennis Allen 'is in a good spot' after 14-18 start with Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 The fact that Loomis blamed a sparse crowd on "economic difficulties" shows how out of touch and ignorant he is. Any GM worth a damn, would have acknowledged that the fans deserve better and that change is needed to make the product desirable to ticket buyers. But nope, lets blame it on the economy when no one will buy a $5 ticket. So the economy in Detroit is better than New Orleans? Is that why so many Lions fans were in attendance? neugey, dizzle88, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.