Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024

Rugby Saint II · 01-31-2024, 03:35 PM

If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year.

Danno · 01-31-2024, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...89101542080862

Who on the 49ers are we interested in?

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2024, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Who on the 49ers are we interested in?

Klint Kubiak, passing game coordinator, for one, Danno. Brian Griese, QB coach, as the other. Both were early interviews for the Saints OC position.

I wouldn't be disappointed with either. And neither really has a path for advancement with the 49er's as Kyle Shanahan is OC in addition to being HC and is also the offensive playcaller.

iceshack149 · 02-01-2024, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year.

I think the quote below may be the direction the Saints take if they do indeed hire Gruden. Similar to the Ireland position for the organization:

Gruden likely would be an addition to the Saints offensive staff rather than a replacement for offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael or another coach in an existing role, the source said. The Saints made a similar move in 2015 when they added Allen to the staff as a senior defensive assistant while Rob Ryan was defensive coordinator. Allen was promoted into the coordinator’s role 10 months later when Ryan was fired.

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...nson-requested

On a side note, I just saw that LB Coach Michael Hodges interviewed for D-Coordinator for the Patriots.

Beyond the development aspect of the job, Hodges is a fantastic cultivator of relationships with his players. At just 37 years old, he is a young coach in the league and working with both young and veteran players can therefore be a challenge. Hodges however, has done nothing more but rise to that occasion. Not only has he been excellent working with younger guys but has built a valuable relationship with a veteran player like Davis that has paid dividends for the entire defense.

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...ve-coordinator

neugey · 02-01-2024, 11:33 AM

With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ...

It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints.

Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable.

Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level.

I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now.

And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA

K Major · 02-01-2024, 11:43 AM

Me thinks the Saints NEXT OC is still participating in post season.

Klint Kubiak.

Again, if you want to compete with the big boys of the NFL, get a YOUNG innovator from the Kyle Shanahan or McVay coaching tree.

But what the hell do I know 🤡 ? I flew jets @ Mach 2 designed by McDonnell Douglass back in the late 90’s.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2024, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ...

It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints.

Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable.

Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level.

I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now.

And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA

I've heard recently that one of the perceived strikes against Vrabel is the same as that of Bill O'Brien. They both try to be another Belichick. Vrabel drew no real interest from anyone after he was released by the Titans. There's a few articles out there on it.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2024, 11:49 AM

Lack Of Interest In Mike Vrabel ‘Real Mystery,’ NFL Executive Says

Commanders Hire Dan Quinn, Leaving Former Titans Coach Mike Vrabel Out of a Job

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2024, 04:54 PM

An OC off the market.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2024, 04:57 PM

01-31-2024, 03:35 PM	#141
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...89101542080862 Who on the 49ers are we interested in? AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by Danno Who on the 49ers are we interested in? Klint Kubiak, passing game coordinator, for one, Danno. Brian Griese, QB coach, as the other. Both were early interviews for the Saints OC position. I wouldn't be disappointed with either. And neither really has a path for advancement with the 49er's as Kyle Shanahan is OC in addition to being HC and is also the offensive playcaller.

02-01-2024, 10:25 AM	#144
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year. I think the quote below may be the direction the Saints take if they do indeed hire Gruden. Similar to the Ireland position for the organization: Gruden likely would be an addition to the Saints offensive staff rather than a replacement for offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael or another coach in an existing role, the source said. The Saints made a similar move in 2015 when they added Allen to the staff as a senior defensive assistant while Rob Ryan was defensive coordinator. Allen was promoted into the coordinator’s role 10 months later when Ryan was fired. https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...nson-requested On a side note, I just saw that LB Coach Michael Hodges interviewed for D-Coordinator for the Patriots. Beyond the development aspect of the job, Hodges is a fantastic cultivator of relationships with his players. At just 37 years old, he is a young coach in the league and working with both young and veteran players can therefore be a challenge. Hodges however, has done nothing more but rise to that occasion. Not only has he been excellent working with younger guys but has built a valuable relationship with a veteran player like Davis that has paid dividends for the entire defense. https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...ve-coordinator

02-01-2024, 11:33 AM	#145
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ... It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints. Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable. Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level. I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now. And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA jnormand, SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by neugey With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ... It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints. Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable. Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level. I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now. And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA I've heard recently that one of the perceived strikes against Vrabel is the same as that of Bill O'Brien. They both try to be another Belichick. Vrabel drew no real interest from anyone after he was released by the Titans. There's a few articles out there on it.

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