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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team...

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Old 01-24-2024, 12:23 PM   #1
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Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW

My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:21 PM   #2
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My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
We appear to be being driven into a swamp, by design. Why? I do not know.
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Old 01-24-2024, 02:01 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton View Post
My concern is is even getting a competent coach outside of the organization that would even want to come here and coach a Dennis Allen led team
But a competent OC might see it as a way to become the Saints HC once DA is fired.
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Old 01-24-2024, 03:29 PM   #4
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Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
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Old 01-24-2024, 04:39 PM   #5
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Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
Boy still gettin paid to barely move his pencil lips, and that’s about it.
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Old 01-24-2024, 05:34 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Maybe those actually in the business have a better understanding of Dennis Allen's worth as a head coach than all of us on the outside looking in. I'll guarantee you that they have a better point of view than I do and I'd be willing to bet they also have more insight than the rest of us, as well.

Then again, they might think he sucks too.
Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
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Old 01-24-2024, 05:54 PM   #7
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Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
Uh, yeah, right.



Where do you come up with this crap?



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Old 01-24-2024, 08:44 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Maybe the people who hired Dennis Allen are more reluctant to admit hiring Dennis Allen was a mistake than the people who didn't hire Dennis Allen.

There is a difference between access / vantage point and smarts. The guy who built that Titan Submersible knew more about it than any of the outsiders or consultants who were concerned about its safety, but his additional information, access, and vantage point did not translate to a sound evaluation, because he also had the most biased view and the most invested in his previous course proving right and visionary, so he could not see the flaws because he had too much invested. The Saints front office, coaching staff, salary cap structure, and aging roster are kind of like the Titan Submersible. The guy who built it believes it can withstand pressures down to 4,000 meters, but outsiders see the warning signs and can hear the walls cracking after 3 straight years of league leading spending for mediocre results and an aging core.
Kind of dark analogy, but it’s makes a good point regardless.

I certainly hope that’s not the case, but I’m sure we’ll know more when the season begins.

Has anyone even heard of anyone even remotely interested in the OC job here? Or anyone the Saints are looking at?

Cause it’s quiet….too quiet. Lol!
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Old 01-25-2024, 01:50 PM   #9
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Re: Fire Dennis Allen NOW

Tampa has an OC opening now they'll need to fill. Harbaugh might need bodies for his staff in SD. Atlanta likely will soon as well considering who they hire for HC. Not saying we have to rush it, but the reality is the demand is going upward and the supply will be going downward.
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Old 01-25-2024, 02:18 PM   #10
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Tampa has an OC opening now they'll need to fill. Harbaugh might need bodies for his staff in SD. Atlanta likely will soon as well considering who they hire for HC. Not saying we have to rush it, but the reality is the demand is going upward and the supply will be going downward.
If their your first choice and your their last choice, by definition you have to wait to have a chance. I am not alarmed by the pacing of the decision. It makes sense that if we are nobodies first choice, and fall somewhere middle to late on the list of openings, we have wait for some of the chips to fall. I would rather not compromise too much and rush to the candidate with no other prospects. We got Sean Payton by being patient. We got Dennis Allen by rushing it.
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