THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR.

Sinner · 01-29-2024, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Bills had that 10th pick that the Chiefs traded up for. KC gave them the 2017 #27 and a 3rd rounder, as well as the first rounder in 2018. The Saints were sitting that one pick away. It would have cost us 2017 #11 and our #1 in 2018 IF the Bill would have even considered trading with us.

Translation: coulda woulda shoulda… didn’t. And here we aren’t.

SmashMouth · 01-29-2024, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Bills had that 10th pick that the Chiefs traded up for. KC gave them the 2017 #27 and a 3rd rounder, as well as the first rounder in 2018. The Saints were sitting that one pick away. It would have cost us 2017 #11 and our #1 in 2018 IF the Bill would have even considered trading with us.

With the Saints' and SP's history of trading up, they didn't bother to make this kind of offer. That's the point of the hypocrisy of SP's utterances.

Maybe we should ask what the Whole Foods Meat Guy has to say since he might have been SP's sounding board once or twice.

K Major · 01-29-2024, 12:08 PM

lol

iceshack149 · 01-29-2024, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is it true, though? Why was Spags so unsuccessful with the Saints, yet much better with his other stints at other teams? Can't really blame RG for that, even though we'd like to. Has to be talent and the talent gathering team, right?

When Goodell forced Payton out for a year the Saints put Spagnuolo in at head coach and from then on it was a circus. That whole bounty debacle screwed the Saints for many years.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2024, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

With the Saints' and SP's history of trading up, they didn't bother to make this kind of offer. That's the point of the hypocrisy of SP's utterances.

Maybe we should ask what the Whole Foods Meat Guy has to say since he might have been SP's sounding board once or twice.

Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special.

Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic.

Sinner · 01-29-2024, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special.

Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic.

Who’s to say that they didn’t try to win more games with “all the right people in the building”? Who’s to say that they haven’t tried to ensure that they have a winning season next year? Who’s to say that we are expected to accept barely being mediocre and continuing to $uck @ss a little les than a few other teams?

WE DAT.

neugey · 01-29-2024, 01:29 PM

We gotta quit pining over Mahomes as a missed opportunity. I'm not convinced Payton or the Saints org would've handled Patrick as well as Reid and the Chiefs have. The only quality QB the Saints have ever developed in 55 years to any degree at all was Delhomme.

SmashMouth · 01-29-2024, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special.

Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic.

Originally Posted by Sinner

Who’s to say that they didn’t try to win more games with “all the right people in the building”? Who’s to say that they haven’t tried to ensure that they have a winning season next year? Who’s to say that we are expected to accept barely being mediocre and continuing to $uck @ss a little les than a few other teams?

WE DAT.

We can only use SP's history in previous drafts to surmise anything. And historically, SP was aggressive in pursuing even marginal oft injured college talent, no matter the position of need. Many of those have worked out... and many of those have failed as well, or the Saints weren't patient enough. Although in this day of ridiculously high salaries, can a team really afford to hold players' hand for three years before the produce? It took Ingram (cost of 2 number 1s) 3 full seasons before the light came on, and Karama and a go right away.

Originally Posted by neugey

We gotta quit pining over Mahomes as a missed opportunity. I'm not convinced Payton or the Saints org would've handled Patrick as well as Reid and the Chiefs have. The only quality QB the Saints have ever developed in 55 years to any degree at all was Delhomme.

Fair point ... water under the bridge.

Originally Posted by Sinner

Yes. We have a whole lot more to pine over than missing Mahomes.
We will be pining plenty next season.

...made more salty by SP's own rhetoric and his moves to GTFOH.

Sinner · 01-29-2024, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

We gotta quit pining over Mahomes as a missed opportunity. I'm not convinced Payton or the Saints org would've handled Patrick as well as Reid and the Chiefs have. The only quality QB the Saints have ever developed in 55 years to any degree at all was Delhomme.

Yes. We have a whole lot more to pine over than missing Mahomes.
We will be pining plenty next season.

Sinner · 02-11-2024, 02:06 PM

Let’s see what happens with my prediction… MAHOMES is more important than Saylor Twift.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,815	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Bills had that 10th pick that the Chiefs traded up for. KC gave them the 2017 #27 and a 3rd rounder, as well as the first rounder in 2018. The Saints were sitting that one pick away. It would have cost us 2017 #11 and our #1 in 2018 IF the Bill would have even considered trading with us. Translation: coulda woulda shoulda… didn’t. And here we aren’t. K Major likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Bills had that 10th pick that the Chiefs traded up for. KC gave them the 2017 #27 and a 3rd rounder, as well as the first rounder in 2018. The Saints were sitting that one pick away. It would have cost us 2017 #11 and our #1 in 2018 IF the Bill would have even considered trading with us. With the Saints' and SP's history of trading up, they didn't bother to make this kind of offer. That's the point of the hypocrisy of SP's utterances. Maybe we should ask what the Whole Foods Meat Guy has to say since he might have been SP's sounding board once or twice. Sinner and K Major like this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,238 Blog Entries: 1	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by SmashMouth Is it true, though? Why was Spags so unsuccessful with the Saints, yet much better with his other stints at other teams? Can't really blame RG for that, even though we'd like to. Has to be talent and the talent gathering team, right? When Goodell forced Payton out for a year the Saints put Spagnuolo in at head coach and from then on it was a circus. That whole bounty debacle screwed the Saints for many years.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by SmashMouth With the Saints' and SP's history of trading up, they didn't bother to make this kind of offer. That's the point of the hypocrisy of SP's utterances. Maybe we should ask what the Whole Foods Meat Guy has to say since he might have been SP's sounding board once or twice. Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special. Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,815	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special. Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic. Who’s to say that they didn’t try to win more games with “all the right people in the building”? Who’s to say that they haven’t tried to ensure that they have a winning season next year? Who’s to say that we are expected to accept barely being mediocre and continuing to $uck @ss a little les than a few other teams? WE DAT. K Major likes this.
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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,671 Blog Entries: 13	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. We gotta quit pining over Mahomes as a missed opportunity. I'm not convinced Payton or the Saints org would've handled Patrick as well as Reid and the Chiefs have. The only quality QB the Saints have ever developed in 55 years to any degree at all was Delhomme. jnormand, SaintFanQ, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: THE CHIEFS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Who's to say they didn't try to move up? Then again, they were only one pick away. Nobody expected KC to come out of nowhere to jump up 17 spots. I could just see the anger of the fans if Payton had mortgaged the farm to move up one spot for a QB that wasn't projected to be anything special. Honestly, it was simply a good move by Reid and company that could not have been prevented by anyone other than a mind-reading, future-seeing mystic. Originally Posted by Sinner Who’s to say that they didn’t try to win more games with “all the right people in the building”? Who’s to say that they haven’t tried to ensure that they have a winning season next year? Who’s to say that we are expected to accept barely being mediocre and continuing to $uck @ss a little les than a few other teams? WE DAT. We can only use SP's history in previous drafts to surmise anything. And historically, SP was aggressive in pursuing even marginal oft injured college talent, no matter the position of need. Many of those have worked out... and many of those have failed as well, or the Saints weren't patient enough. Although in this day of ridiculously high salaries, can a team really afford to hold players' hand for three years before the produce? It took Ingram (cost of 2 number 1s) 3 full seasons before the light came on, and Karama and a go right away. Originally Posted by neugey We gotta quit pining over Mahomes as a missed opportunity. I'm not convinced Payton or the Saints org would've handled Patrick as well as Reid and the Chiefs have. The only quality QB the Saints have ever developed in 55 years to any degree at all was Delhomme. Fair point ... water under the bridge. Originally Posted by Sinner Yes. We have a whole lot more to pine over than missing Mahomes. We will be pining plenty next season. ...made more salty by SP's own rhetoric and his moves to GTFOH.

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