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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I would 100% go after Aiyuk right now. 100% Olave, Shaheed are your only reliable receivers. All others are at BEST a fringe WR 3. I'm hearing that the Patriots were offering up more than that ...

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I would 100% go after Aiyuk right now.

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Olave, Shaheed are your only reliable receivers.

All others are at BEST a fringe WR 3.
I'm hearing that the Patriots were offering up more than that contract wise and he turned them down. I'm also hearing that the 49er's want a frontline WR back in return as part of a deal. That's the hang-up with the Steelers. The Browns seem willing to include Amari Cooper as part of a deal.

I'm also hearing Aiyuk's demands include an average that would put him in the top five in WR salary. In other words, north of $30 million per year. Jefferson is at $35 million.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I'm hearing that the Patriots were offering up more than that contract wise and he turned them down. I'm also hearing that the 49er's want a frontline WR back in return as part of a deal. That's the hang-up with the Steelers. The Browns seem willing to include Amari Cooper as part of a deal.

I'm also hearing Aiyuk's demands include an average that would put him in the top five in WR salary. In other words, north of $30 million per year. Jefferson is at $35 million.
So, would you throw Shaheed and a high draft pic into the mix to get him? Keep in mind that Olave is due a payday after 2025.
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I wouldn’t pay the $30 million+ for Aiyuk. I’d go after somebody like Courtland Sutton.
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One thing that came along with Dr. Matt Rhea taking the helm as Director of Sports Science two years ago was shutting down players at the first hint of any soft tissue issues in training camp. He instituted a policy of slowly "ramping up" players during the preseason to lessen or eliminate those more serious incidences during the regular season. In the past the medical staff would probably have simply wrapped that hammy or calf tweak or strain and sent the players right back out there leading to prolonged problems.

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Are we trying to become the Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons in every way?

I am not sure there is a position more disconnected with winning rings in the past 25 years than receiver. Julio Jones 0 rings. Randy Moss 0 rings. Calvin Johnson 0 rings. Andre Johnson 0 rings. Antonio Brown 0 rings once he emerged as a force (won a ring his rookie year where he had 167 yards receiving on the season 1 catch for 1 yard in the super bowl). Ocho Cinco 0 rings. TO 0 rings. Justin Jefferson 0 rings. Tyreek Hill 1 ring, 2 year drought afterward, then Chiefs trade Hill, basically have zero decent receivers, win 2 rings in a row without him. Davante Adams 0 rings. Larry Fitzgerald 0 rings. Anquan Boldin 1 token ring in aging 32yo season, after which he was immediately traded to top rival for a 6th round pick. DeAndre Hopkins 0 rings. Dallas Cowboys have an elite #1 receiver basically every season, last ring 1995, Lamb Cooper Bryant all 0 rings.

Essentially it is harder to win a Super Bowl if you invest too much in a wide receiver. You end up having to make the offense one dimensional to justify trading all your draft picks and/or spending all your cap on one receiver. It is better to have a #1 WR who is considered second tier or complementary and doesn't cost as much or attract as much attention or demand to be fed the ball. A Colston gets you more rings than a Moss. Spending $30 million on Aiyuk would be flushing money down the toilet while trying to make Derek Carr into the Saints Matt Ryan or the Raiders Derek Carr (remember when they got Carr an elite receiver and he didnt get better?).
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