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We don’t dump doom and gloom. The Saints do. We respond to it.

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This site is no longer great. And that's primarily because of you. Not the Saints. Not their personnel. Not their organization. You.

You are like the dog in the fire smoking a cig, saying everything is fine. The obliviousness you show when multiple people are literally screaming that the problem is you, and your compatriots, in your face is absolutely astounding to watch.

The bickering is a byproduct of the fact that you will not leave any conversation about the team alone because you are pissed off that they cannot deliver you a SuperBowl championship every year. You "know" that the team needs to be changed. You also know that isn't happening anytime soon. So, your expression of your frustration is to spew crap on any conversation here that states anything other than blowing up the whole thing up and starting over.

People are getting frustrated with you. And we cannot ignore you because you are everywhere on here. You don't want to talk Saints football. You don't want to talk about how things can get better. All you want to do is complain bitterly here, aggravate many people here, then hide your hands with "I'm just expressing myself. If you don't like it then you can just ignore me." knowing full well that there is no way to do that.

So, drop your trite "The Saints are the problem." The problem is you. And you won't do anything to try to rectify it.

So, I'm taking a page your book. Since you are the problem on this site in my estimation. And like the Saints you cannot seem to fix it, I'm going to complain about you everywhere you go here. And I'm calling for everyone who is as aggravated as I am with this to do the same. Maybe when you start to see every one of your post followed by 20-30 responses about how you are ruining this site, maybe you'll finally have some self reflection and make some changes.

I don't understand if your problem is with the Saints, why don't you address your issues with them? E-mail Loomis, or Greg Bensel, their VP of Communications and express your displeasure to them. Do it every day if you like. They are the ones who need to hear your complaints, not us.

And yes, I'm just expressing what I perceive and feel. And like you I will continue to do so at every turn. I would even advise folks to put me on ignore too because every response of mine that follows you is going to be just like this one.

SFIAH

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This is about THE SAINTS. It’s not about ME. It’s a SAINTS FORUM, not a ME or YOU FORUM. If you want to make this about ME, have at it. I’m here to talk about my Saints.

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No. It's you. You have the binary "Must win championships/Otherwise complete crap" switch that ordinary fans don't have. It's you that doesn't that the ability to read a room and respond accordingly.

Why do you respond to your issues with the Saints here? You have issues with the Saints. Go take up your issues with them. We want to talk about Saints football in the real world here, not in your fantasy world where the Saints go 20-0, dominate everyone, and win the championship every year.

You are not going to get to deflect blame. You are the problem and you have no interest in fixing it. You don't be a part of this community. You want to terrorize this community.

I hope you are starting to see that we're not going to put up with it this year. And we're not going to try to ignore you anymore.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM HERE. FIX IT!

SFIAH

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This isn’t a glowing endorsement for Dennis Allen. The New Orleans Saints head coach was graded worst among his peers by NBC Sports analyst Patrick Daugherty, clocking in at the bottom of the offseason coach rankings — at least among returning head coaches. The eight first-year coaches were also ranked beneath Allen, but that’s because they’re all relatively unknown quantities.

Unfortunately for Allen, we know exactly what he is and where his shortcomings lie. We’ll let Daugherty explain why Allen was ranked at No. 24 among the 24 head coaches returning from 2023:

“We lost a lot of bad coaches last winter. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels and Ron Rivera send their regards. That means we are left with the merely mediocre to round out our list. No one is more committed to the bit than Dennis Allen. A defensive coordinator trapped in a head coach’s body, Allen has treated Sean Payton’s leftover offense like a museum heirloom that disintegrates if you touch it. This is an attack that hasn’t innovated in three years, right down to banging Alvin Kamara between the tackles for no reason and rushing Taysom Hill onto the field any time there’s a critical down. Well, it’s not entirely true there’s been no innovation. Allen has decided to find out just how boring Drew Brees-style quarterbacking can become. Andy Dalton pushed the envelope in 2022. Derek Carr reached new heights in 2023. Allen, who admittedly takes care of business on defense, has finally moved on from Payton Ball on offense but replaced it with … Kubiak Ball. Not Gary, but Klint. It’s a fine system in a vacuum. It’s also become mummified under Klint, with no new wrinkles inserted since the Peyton Manning days in Denver. Maybe 2023 49ers passing-game coordinator Klint learned something under coach Kyle Shanahan. That’s what the Saints’ season and Allen’s future employment hinges on: This old Kubiak dog picking up some new Shanahan tricks. I suppose there are worse plans, but I’m not seeing many for 2024.”

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It's YOU! Not the Saints. If YOU didn't do what YOU do, then almost everyone here would have a lovely time talking about Saints football.

You are here to disparage the team. And for God knows what reason, you are determined to make most of us miserable in the process. I guess you think that somehow you can get us all as pissed off about the Saints as you are. It's not going to work. All you will do is what you are doing now: Getting many of us pissed at YOU!

Well you have succeeded. And you can keep coming back with your pithy "But it's the Saints!" Lame excuses fall of deaf ears.

Test your theory. Go into read mode a while. Watch the site. See if all of us are so pissed with the Saints that the same kind of moaning and complaining that YOU always do continues to the degree that YOU do it.

You won't. Because YOU know the answer to that. Your objective is to make us miserable. YOU HAVE SUCCEEDED! But I'm not going take that out on the Saints, because the Saints are not the cause of it. YOU ARE!

SFIAH

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I’m not going to rehash the entire Payton/Brees Saints era, other than to say it was spectacular and fun. We won a playoff game and went the NFC Championship the first year, and won a Super Bowl in their 4th season together. A lot of stuff happened and there were good and bad seasons, but later they reinvented the team and had another excellent run of success. I appreciated every minute of the roller coaster ride, and ecstatically shared many of those moments here (mostly in LIVE CHAT during the games).

The hallmark of those teams was that they were always exciting to watch. Payton coached with authority and his energy was that of the fans—— he might have been overly aggressive with challenges or 4th down plays, but that aggressiveness fed into the team, who built on that energy. You could also count the number of games on that the Brees/Payton Saints were blown out of on one hand.

This is a different story. I am here to chronicle that story with y’all.

AGAIN… THIS IS ABOUT THE SAINTS, NOT ME.

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This is no longer about the Saints. You don't get to post this without making suggestion about how do you fix it beyond firing Allen and Loomis. I gave you that opportunity before. You declined to engage in it.

I cannot see why you can't figure out that if the only that gets discussed here is how bad the Saints are, and that they should even bother to play the season, then everyone other than you and Mapcow will just leave. Leave you to a desolate wasteland. I guess that's you want: all of us to stay here and join into your misery.

Everyone wants to point out all the problems. But no one seems to have any solutions. Did you see any articles from this guy back in January about who the Saints should have hired instead of Kubiak?

I really just wish you would take your own advice. You said elsewhere that you wouldn't go to war with disorganized incompetence. You clearly feel that's where the Saints are. So, why don't you just walk away until you see the competence you seek? Come back at the end of the season.

SFIAH

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Derek Carr’s bad habit of throwing short of the sticks has drawn criticism from Saints fans and mockery from his opponents, and the numbers bear it out. Pro Football Reference measures success rate as the percent of plays which gain at least 40% of yards needed on first down, 60% on second down, and 100% on third or fourth down. Carr’s current success rate as a passer is just 43.6%, which ranks 20th among the NFL’s 32 starting quarterbacks.

Look at more comprehensive metrics like quarterback rating (where Carr’s 82.8 grade ranks 20th) or PFR’s adjusted net yards per pass attempt (which has Carr at 23rd, with a 5.2 ANY/A) and you’ll see more of the same: he’s on the wrong end of the spectrum in terms of NFL quarterback play.

It wouldn’t be as big an issue if Carr were playing on the modest contract the Saints signed Jameis Winston to; his last two-year, $28 million deal would be more in line with someone performing at Carr’s level. That Carr is instead being paid to play like a fringe top-10 quarterback (his $37.5 million average per-year salary clocks in at 13th) makes it a problem when he’s closer to a bottom-10 passer (his success rate, again, is 20th). If Carr can’t pick it up and meet the expectations set for him, he and his contract are quickly going to become an albatross holding this team back.

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That era is gone. That era worked because of Payton and Brees. Both of them are gone. And they are never ever coming back.

It's rare when an organization loses their Hall of Fame quality people and keep rolling at the same level with a new group of people. Maybe the 49ers in the 80's? Look at what happened to the Cowgirls since Aikman, Smith, and Irvin moved on. They haven't sniffed anything close to a championship. People like that just don't fall off the turnip truck.

It's about YOU because YOU constantly scream about how YOU don't have that anymore. But YOU don't even want to talk about how do you get the next Payton or Brees and get the qualities that you describe above. YOU just want it magically done so that you can recapture that feeling that you used to have.

That's not real life. Especially in the NFL. Ask the Lions. Or the Browns. If may be 50 years before the Saints recapture that.

My fear is that you are going to scream each and every one of those 50 years. That you cannot find anything at all about the current organization that's worth talking about. And even worse you try at every turn to prevent anyone else from doing it either.

So, again, keep listening, this is about YOU. YOU cannot get over the post Brees/Payton hangover. You don't want to talk about how we can possibly get past where we are. You don't want to have any discussion about the current organization. And again for some inexplicable reason you feel compelled to spew that trash here where very few people want to hear it on a daily basis.

Allen was not fired in January. Kubiak was hired in January. The organization for 2024 is set. And no amount of your screaming is going to change that. So, frankly, I don't want to hear it anymore. I want to be able to talk about training camp, and preseason games, and how the Saints are going to come out 2-2 or better in games 2-5 in the regular season.

You don't want to talk about any of that. But for certain you are going to dump load on anyone that does.

Just write everything you're going to write here and send it to Mickey. He's the one who actually has the power to make the changes you want. He should hear about that from you. We don't need to.

SFIAH

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It not about ME. This is a SAINTS FORUM. It’s about the SAINTS.

Mickey Loomis is quoted as saying, “I think sometimes the easy thing to do, the lazy thing to do is look at the results of the season and say ‘ah it’s the coach’s fault, it’s the quarterback’s fault.’ I think sometimes you have to look beyond that,” Loomis said, pointing to the records each of those coaches achieved in their first two years on the job. Walsh went 8-24 in his first two years with the San Francisco 49ers. Noll was 6-22 with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Belichick had a 13-19 showing after his first two years with the Cleveland Browns. Payton went 7-9 and 8-8 in his second and third years on the job.

But it’s a bogus comparison. Allen may be 16-18 after two seasons with the Saints, but you can’t compare these situations the way Loomis is trying to. It isn’t like Allen is new to the responsibilities of being a head coach. He had three years to figure these things out a decade ago with the Raiders. Walsh, Noll, Belichick, and Payton were all first-timers. Allen has been here before but he doesn’t have the results to show for it.

To be clear, Loomis should believe in Allen seeing that he brought the coach back for a third year at the helm. Loomis, however, doesn’t need to make ridiculous comparisons to attempt to defend his guy. The comparisons are meant to express things haven’t gone well but can get better, and Dennis Allen’s record isn’t a full reflection of his ability Comparing Allen to Payton and Belichick, and multiple Hall of Famers, dilutes the point.

And Payton, specifically, accomplished much more than Allen had to this point in his career. Has Loomis forgotten that he led the Saints to the NFC championship game in his first season with New Orleans? That he won more games in his first year as a head coach than Allen has ever managed in five? Allen can’t even win the weakest division in pro football two years running.

But Loomis hired Allen, and he’s going to keep making excuses for Allen’s shortcomings until things change. And hopefully they will. There’s enough talent on this roster to get into the playoffs. Maybe the Saints can make enough changes to the coaching staff this offseason to get over that hump. Maybe not… But they can do that without having their general manager embarrass himself whenever he gets in front of a microphone, and making a mockery of our loyalty as fans.

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So, I ask as always, what would you have done instead? The Saints lost confidence in JW2. And TH7 had his shot at QB1 and did not make the mark. The Saints did not have a quarterback on the Roster. So, you do you pick instead. What do you pay them.

It's easy to complain about Carr. But it's all a load of crap if you cannot suggest what the Saints should have done instead.

You can keep posting this crap all day long. I see that you're just deflecting and not answering any of my questions about why you continue to do this and why would just won't stop.

It doesn't matter now about Carr's stats or his salary. That's done. He is QB1 for the Saints right now. He is QB1 for the 2024 squad.

All you can do now is suggest what they should have done. But of course you won't do that. It's just so much easier to just complain.

SFIAH

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No. It's about you. All you ever do it complain about where we are. You never give a suggestion about what to do, other than fire Allen then full stop, or what the organization should have done. I gave you a list of the 10 coaches hired Allen's year, and another watch list for 2025 and asked you to discuss. As always you refused. You'd rather just talk about how terrible Allen is and how terrible Loomis is for picking him.

But buddy, your worst nightmare may be coming. The 2024 Saints have a realistic chance of going 10-7 and winning the NFC South. They then get to host a playoff game, which winning may be a possibility. And then your're going be stuck with Allen for another 4 years.

Of course it's my worst nightmare too, because then I'll have 4 more years of hearing your whining.

SFIAH

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I don’t do “woulda shoulda coulda”… AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME.

THIS IS A SAINTS FORUM.

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Woulda coulda shoulda is how things get better. The Saints woulda coulda should not hired Allen 3 years ago and would coulda shoulda fired him since then.

Though unlikely you may get another shot at the end of this season. Who's on your watch list? Who should the Saints Woulda Coulda Shoulda hire in January 2025?

You don't want to talk about the Saints except to dump on them. So, you and I are going keep talking about why you do that because that's about you, not the Saints.

SFIAH

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You can keep talking about ME all you like, I am here to talk about my Saints!

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No you're not. You here to dump on the Saints. You are worse than the worst FailClown fans that I have ever encountered, and I've lived here in Atlanta for more than 40 years.

Fine. If you want to "talk about your Saints." then name exactly one positive thing that you see in the 2024 squad. Just one single encouraging thing that may pan out this year.

You've already posted about how Carr underachieves, and how Allen is an absolutely horrible coach. And that's in the last 1/2 hour.

Can you see even a glimmer of hope in the 2024 squad? If not, how can you really call yourself a fan? Because you fanatically only want an exciting team that wins championships?

I await this one with baited breath.

SFIAH

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Please… UN-BAIT your breath. I don’t want you to hurt yourself.

You might have forgotten that the New Orleans Saints finished last season with a winning record. They were 9-8.

It would have been more fitting if they found a way to finish 8-8-1 because since the end of the Sean Payton/Drew Brees era the Saints have settled into boring mediocrity with no end in sight.

They're 25-26 the past three seasons. They have a quarterback in Derek Carr who is 33 years old and has a $150 million contract, but Saints fans never seemed to embrace him during his first underwhelming season in New Orleans. They have a head coach in Dennis Allen who seems likely to be on the hot seat at the end of each season, only to survive to the chagrin of the fans. The Saints' top two highest-paid players for most of the offseason, in terms of salary-cap hits, were running back Alvin Kamara and tight end Taysom Hill before Hill restructured in late spring. Kamara's best days seem behind him and he plays a devalued position, and Hill will be 34 and is the pet project of a former head coach who hasn't been on the Saints' sideline since the end of the 2021 season. Hill's restructure in mid-June cleared up salary-cap space and pushed a larger cap hit to the future. That's what the Saints do.

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Nope. I knew you couldn't do it. This is just wrapping up your complaints with damningly faint praise. So faint that you need a microscope to even catch a whiff of it.

I guess my breath will continue to be baited.

Do you think the 2024 Saints will also have a winning record? Let's try there.

SFIAH

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Let’s try this… a “winning record” matters about as much as what I think.
And no… “woulda shoulda coulda” DOES NOT fix anything. Clearly.

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Not true. If one understands what mistakes were made at the time, then one learns not to make those same mistakes again.

You have records to compare. Guys that came to our building 3 years ago when elsewhere and did stuff. Did you like the stuff that they did? Does that stuff look like championship caliber stuff.

Just off the cuff: Doug Pederson. Went to Jacksonville. Would the Saints have been able to sniff a championship with that guy?

Is there anything positive if the 2024 Saints win one more game and go to the playoffs? I know your answer, but I ask anyway.

I mean at this point if I could just get you to say that you like the way Janitors clean the restrooms it would be a win.

I'm just proving the point that you are incompatible here. You are like anti-matter in terms of being a supposed Saints Fan. You cannot find one single redeeming quality to the team that we now have. I really don't understand why you are here. You should be so disgusted with what you see in the Saints, that you should not ever want to talk about them or participate in anything involving the organization.

And that's exactly how you act: an anti Saints fan using the cloak of wanting to see the team to be better to continuously trash the organization.

Keep going. Everyone will tire of your BS soon enough. In fact, they already have.

SFIAH

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Why do you feel compelled to try to get me to say anything, or to try to get me to stop saying anything? It is a futile endeavor. I say what I say. There are literally hundreds of other threads in this forum, that I am not involved in. Your fascination with me personally, is obscuring your view of reality.

I have said plenty. I will say plenty more.

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Because everything, absolutely everything, you say trashes this team. This forum is not here to trash this team. You would be looking for the FailClowns forum where there are a hundred threads everyday that trash the Saints.

I want to stop you because you spew your filth about the Saints in every thread posted here. And just as shown here you don't have a single kind, or neutral, word about this team.

We have asked politely for you to tone it down. We have ignored you. We have screamed at the top of our lungs for you to stop. You are singlehandedly making this forum a miserable place to be.

There are many fans here that I enjoy have conversations about the Saints. The current 2024 Saints. YOU HATE THAT TEAM! You are no better than a typical FaiClowns fan. And I deal with them on a daily basis. You are like a whiney child in the middle of an adult conversation.

I no long have any interest in trying to shut you up. But you will never ever go unchallenged with you trashing of the Saints again. Everywhere you go here, I'll be there to challenge it. To ask you that since you can see that's it's so broken that obviously you know how to fix it and that you should share.

You don't because you can't. You don't have clue what it takes to put together a winning organization. Mickey Loomis has a SuperBowl under his watch. You have nothing but a big yappy mouth filled with trash for the Saints.

It's time for you to put up or shut up. Tell us how to make the Saints a better organization or stop trashing them. Or go somewhere where people want to hear that trash.

I don't like bullies. You are a bully. I confront bullies. So, here I am.

I just want peace and quiet here to talk Saints Football. You disturb that on a daily basis. And since you're not going to stop, I'm not either.

SFIAH

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I keep talking about THE SAINTS. You keep talking about me.
You can choose to stop at any time.

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Well, let’s see if we can get this train back on the tracks.
Reasons to be positive about the season.
The biggest one for me is getting rid of Carmichael. I held nothing against the guy but he’s just not an OC. Kind of like that assistant manager who knows all about the business and is good at what they do but you hand them the keys to the business and they can’t do it at that level.
To piggyback off of that I was pleased with his replacement. I’m optimistic, but we truly won’t know until the season gets rolling.
That’s the biggest reason I have to be positive about the season.
Oh yes…the start of a new season!!!
GO SAINTS!!!:bng:

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This place is barely worth coming to anymore. I used to come here to get all my Saints news and have constructive discussions with other fans. Now this place and seemingly every Saints related thread is dominated by people that either have zero interest in having a conversation and just want to troll threads or people that seem to get their sayings from WWF wrestlers from the 1980s “There will be pain!!!”

I miss the days of JoeSam, Hagen, FF and JP.

Those guys were knowledgeable and could have a conversation or debate on the team or a player or coach without turning the entire thread into nothing but trash talking and posturing.

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Bingo! That's where a great deal of my excitement sits, as well. With five games remaining last season we were LAST in the league in pre-snap motion. That hamstrings any QB not allowing them to get that definitive read on the defense. Offenses from the Shanahan/Kubiak tree design led the entire league in pre-snap motion. If we had even a halfway competent play designer and/or playcaller we would have easily won an additional two to three more games, walked away with the NFC South, hosted a home playoff game, and had a chance to do some damage.

We have one of the best defenses in the league and it will only get better with an offense that can spend more time on the field.

Who Dat!!

:bng:

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You miss the days of JoeSam, Hagen, FF and JP.
I miss the days of Sean Payton and Drew Brees.

Those guys were exciting to watch, and could keep me on the edge of my seat, chuggin aspirin and smoking like a fiend every game. It was a wild roller coaster ride, that even on games we lost, were exciting and intense.

So you miss quality discussions about Saints Football.
I miss quality Football from the Saints.

It’s ok. Life goes on…

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Again, Carmichael was in way over his head. JMO.
Having Kubiak here gives me optimism for this offense. Hopefully he can get results out of Carr and others that Carmichael just didn’t have the ability to do. If he doesn’t then that begs the question, did we misjudge on Kubiak or is Carr as bad as a lot of people say he is? Only time will tell.
:bng:

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You talk BAD ABOUT THE SAINTS. AND ONLY BAD ABOUT THEM!

No one wants to hear that crap all day long.

You literally say SAINTS SUCK SAINTS SUCK SAINTS SUCK SAINTS SUCK SAINTS SUCK day after day after day after day.

It sounds like a child banging on a pot all day. Eventually you don't care why they are banging on the pot. You just want the incessant noise to stop.

You don't talk about what the team should do. Or what they should have done. Or how they can get better.

You only talk about how bad they are and how you hate them for it.

Just get out of here with that damn racket. My most fervent wish is that you choose to stop it.

But you're not going to. So, I choose not to stop either.

And why do you refuse to answer my questions? Why do you do this here? Why do you not address your issues directly with the Saints organization since they are the ones you despise? Why do you torture us with your BS? Why do you want to be a pariah in this community of Saints fans? You are no longer a Saints fan because you hate this team and this organization.

SFIAH

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You still at it?

Let’s try this again…

THIS IS A SAINTS FORUM. I TALK ABOUT THE SAINTS.

This is not a ME FORUM. YOU JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT ME.

Work it out.

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sure i do. I am just a fan, and a disgruntled one at that. :beatnik:

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IGNORE Feature ... use it. OR don't read the post. :beatnik:

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hardheaded you are..... IGNORE....oh, and the truth about the Saints hurt. :beatnik:

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I apologize to you and everyone else (except for Sinner of course) for having to take the posturing stand here. I don't want to do this. But I just cannot stand to have this go on for another season. I agree with you that this incessant trash talking of the current team in any thread that attempts to talk about the current team barely makes it worth coming here.

I'm trying to put a stop to it. I figure that either I will be banned, or Sinner will. In either case there will be a merciful end to this.

I was here with those guys. I miss them now that they are gone. There are still people here worth talking Saints football with. I want to get back to that this season without flyby trash dumps in every thread. I've put up with this for 2 complete seasons hoping that it would stop. But when the Saints decided to retain Allen for a 3rd year, I knew that the trash machine would crank up as the season drew closer. This is the thread that broke the camel's back for me. It's literally titled "Reasons to be Positive" and it immediately got dumped on.

It is impossible to have any discussion about the 2024 Saints here anymore. So, I'm going to challenge every post until it stops.

I repeat that it's fine to put me on ignore.

I apologize again for this. I wish it did not need to be done. But someone has to finally take out the trash.

SFIAH

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I miss the days when the Saint was a team, other organizations feared to face. Now this Saints team is a minor blip on the opponent's schedule. :beatnik:

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hope your right on the prediction, but REALISTICALLY, it will not happen. :beatnik:

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Shhhh… This went from a SAINTS FORUM to a KUMBAYA FORUM,
The same way that the Saints went from Superbowl Champions in 2010,
to below mediocre fourteen years later… but you’re not supposed to talk about it here, or you’ll crash the site.

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You are the other one here. Somehow you think we don't understand the reality of the Saints current situation and that you and the other guy have to mansplain it to us on a daily basis.

I will no long ignore him. Or you either. You post trash (your "truth") and I'm going to follow up.

So, you get the same question. HOW DO YOU FIX IT!?

You have defined the problem. We no longer need to discuss, or have on repeat, what that problem definition is. We need solutions. All I ever hear is "Fire Allen". Just like last year "Fire Pete Carmichael." OK fine. You got your wish.

But then what. Folks are already complaining about Kubiak and he hasn't run a single play for this Saints organization yet. Who would you have put into that spot instead. Why?

You fire Allen. Who do you put into his place? Who should the Saints have hired 3 years ago instead of Allen?

This is why I challenge your truth. You have no solutions, just complaints.

Stop telling me about the problems that you see. Tell me the solutions to fix them.

SFIAH

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Yet another definition of the problem. How do you fix it. It just cannot be "Well the Saints need to become a team to be feared again." It's not magic.

I don't think you guys get the fact that Drew Brees is literally one of the best and most accurate QBs is the 100+ year history of the NFL. It's like you think you can just go into the HOF QB orchard and just pick another one. While clearly they do come along every once in a while, both knowing they will grow into that, and having the opportunity to get that pick are slim to none.

Knowing what we know now, the Saints should have done everything in their power to pick Mahommes in 2017. I still don't know how KC knew to do it. I believe they jumped up 16 spots IIRC.

But it's 2024. What is done is done. Stop reminiscing about an age gone by and work towards a future that is better than now.

How can this team get better? If firing Allen is the only solution, then who do you replace him with. If Carr cannot work, then who will.

STOP COMPLAINING AND FIX IT!

SFIAH