Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997336)

I reiterate, the Saints are not going to listen to us anyway. That includes your complaining. I realize I'm asking you to participate in an activity that my IRL friends and I have done for a while. If someone vetoes a decision about something like a restaurant choice, it's up to the person bringing the complaint to make another suggestion.

You already know the truth. The Saints are not going to work this out to your satisfaction. They have had 3 off ramps with Dennis Allen already and chose not to take any of them. If the Saints go 10-7, win the South, and win a home playoff game in 2024 before exiting without a real sniff of a championship, like the Succs did last season, then Allen won't be going anywhere. You can best believe in Loomis' mind that there's nothing to work out if that happens.

I keep telling you that if the Saints could work out what you are looking for, they would have done so. So, you are waiting for an event that will never happen.

So, that's why I ask you how you would work it out. Clearly you are more clued into the impediments that are keeping the organization from another championship. So, who would you like to see in place at the head of the organization who can actually fix this?

The Saints brass are just people. Football people with some experience. But just people like you and I. And with the interwebs we have a lot more access than fans in the past.

Let me throw out a name as an example: Michael Borgonzi - KC Chief Assistant GM. Clearly part of the organizational planning of a championship team. Also as director of Pro and College scouting has a plan for putting together a championship roster. How might he turn the ship around?

SFIAH

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997337)

I’m not vetoing a restaurant choice. I am a disgruntled fan. That’s all.
And if you tell me to go find another team to root for, you don’t understand what being a true fan is.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997338)

Sure I do. But you've put yourself in an impossible position. The current Saints organization has drained all ability for you to see anything hopeful about the product. And there's nothing you can do about it. And likely nothing will be done to change the situation.

Even worse even if significant changes are eventually made, they make nothing close to guaranteeing that a championship will result.

But you promote championship caliber football as so important that it eclipses the organization. Many of us feel that true fans understand the current construction's limitations and hope for the best with the product on the field.

But alas you are stuck and we are stuck with you. But just like the 2024 Saints, I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation here. Talking about how to possibly fix it is a sight better than just complaining that it's broken and that it should be fixed.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997256)

Seriously? Don't you have any hope for the team? If not, why are you even here? Don't tell me that it's to interact with other fans for a meaningful discussion. I have seen Sinner be happy when the team played well and I'm hoping for more posts from him like in the old days. On the other hand, mapcow really doesn't seem to have anything positive to say about anything or anyone. Well, maybe his cow.....

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 997365)

I don’t think they are even trying. I think Gayle is ready to wash her hands and sell. They won’t even sell out a home game this year.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 997365)

I don’t think they are even trying. I think Gayle is ready to wash her hands and sell. They won’t even sell out a home game this year.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997366)

LOL! The games are already sold out. You are so full of ****. :D