If the question is who is more responsible for our offensive struggles in 2023, my answer is Trevor Penning, and your answer is Pete Carmichael, don't you 'hate' Pete Carmichael as much as I 'hate' Trevor Penning?

Some of us hate losing. We hate $ucking. And some don’t. At least we’re all honest about it.

That's a dishonest statement.

Okay. to be completely honest, I HATE LOSING. Is it dishonest to assume that many other Fans hate losing too?

Let’s start there…

You know that it's dishonest to assume that anyone here enjoys losing. No one here is happy with below average Saints teams. That said, most of us know that going to a Saints fan site crying every day about the team's poor quality over the last few years is futile. Most of us want to have a discussion about what we would do differently if we managed this team and what to look forward to as the season approaches.

If you're really being honest, you'd address the fact that you and a couple of other posters are here to troll and ruin this site.

You know that it's dishonest to assume that anyone here enjoys losing. No one here is happy with below average Saints teams. That said, most of us know that going to a Saints fan site crying every day about the team's poor quality over the last few years is futile. Most of us want to have a discussion about what we would do differently if we managed this team and what to look forward to as the season approaches.

If you're really being honest, you'd address the fact that you and a couple of other posters are here to troll and ruin this site.

uh... no. quite the opposite. living in reality and truth is the best disinfectant/sunshine to alleviate the doldrums and depression of losing.

I give them their sunshiny kumbaya oasis, and it’s all so yawn-worthy, that they cannot resist coming onto my thread and taking personal attacks.

And the season hasn’t even STARTED yet!

You know that it's dishonest to assume that anyone here enjoys losing. No one here is happy with below average Saints teams. That said, most of us know that going to a Saints fan site crying every day about the team's poor quality over the last few years is futile. Most of us want to have a discussion about what we would do differently if we managed this team and what to look forward to as the season approaches.

If you're really being honest, you'd address the fact that you and a couple of other posters are here to troll and ruin this site.

Yup! Personally, I hate losing. That's why I'd hate for the team to ever blow things up. I hope we never see another top ten draft pick because that means we had one of the ten worst records in the league. I'd rather have five wins than three wins. I'd rather have seven wins than five wins. I'd much rather have nine wins than seven wins. Eleven wins would be way better than nine.