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Time To Move On At Tackle?
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The Ramczyk situation didn't sneak up on them Our other first round lineman have developed much faster "Hope" is not a strategy Better make a move DA. Sean Payton wouldn't let this happen.......
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08-14-2024, 01:16 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
The Ramczyk situation didn't sneak up on them
Our other first round lineman have developed much faster "Hope" is not a strategy Better make a move DA. Sean Payton wouldn't let this happen.... |
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08-14-2024, 01:43 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
Here's the list of who is left out there.
Donovan Smith David Bakhtiari D.J. Humphries Jason Peters Charles Leno Billy Turner Duane Brown Riley Reiff Tackles Signed as Free Agents, 2024: Michael Onwenu (Signed a three-year, $57 million extension with the Patriots) Jonah Williams (Signed a two-year, $30 million contract with the Cardinals) Jermaine Eluemunor (Signed a two-year, $14 million contract with the Giants) Chukwuma Okorafor (Signed a one-year, $4 million contract with the Patriots) Blake Brandel (Signed a three-year, $9.5 million contract with the Vikings) David Quessenberry (Signed a one-year, $1.9 million extension with the Vikings) Matt Pryor (Signed a one-year contract with the Bears) David Sharpe (Signed a two-year contract with the Texans) George Fant (Signed a contract with the Seahawks) Storm Norton (Signed a contract with the Falcons) Jake Curhan (Signed a contract with the Bears) Charlie Heck (Signed a one-year contract with the Texans) Tyron Smith (Signed a one-year, $6.5 million contract with the Jets) Isaiah Wynn (Signed a one-year extension with the Dolphins) Brandon Parker (Signed a one-year contract with the 49ers) Yosuah Nijman (Signed a two-year, $8 million contract with the Panthers) Cornelius Lucas (Signed a one-year extension with the Commanders) Olisaemeka Udoh (Signed a one-year contract with the Saints) Trent Brown (Signed a one-year contract with the Bengals) Josh Jones (Signed a contract with the Ravens) Kendall Lamm (Signed a contract with the Dolphins) La’el Collins (Signed a contract with the Bills) Chuma Edoga (Signed a one-year, $1.29 million contract with the Cowboys) Andre Dillard (Signed a one-year, $1.125 million contract with the Packers) Mekhi Becton (Signed a one-year contract with the Eagles) Andrus Peat (Signed a contract with the Raiders) A.J. Jackson (Signed a one-year, $4.9 million tender with the Rams) Chris Hubbard (Signed a contract with the 49ers) Geron Christian (Signed a one-year, $1.25 million contract with the Titans) Cameron Erving (Signed a contract with the Texans) Conor McDermott (Signed a contract with the Rams) |
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“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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08-14-2024, 02:08 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
I heard something recently on NFL Radio on the topic of the shortage of quality offensive tackles in the game today. It been pointed out several times that the lack of real hands on coaching and teaching the position at the college level is, of course, a huge factor, but what they stressed was how it has became a recent trend for the truly athletic big guys to transition from offense to defense either early in college or even in high school. The "glory" of getting to the QB has become far more attractive than the "chore" of trying to protect the QB. I hadn't heard that before, but it makes perfect sense in today's game with the current player mentality.
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“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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08-14-2024, 02:54 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
For what it's worth.
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08-14-2024, 04:04 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
 
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08-14-2024, 09:01 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Everyone you listed would be an upgrade over Penning. Every single one.
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08-14-2024, 10:23 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
We need a reliable right tackle who is not coming off 1,000 injuries even if they are not the best talent. But we need some talent, not Penning. And we need someone who will play, not David Back-On-IR-y
Derek Carr's $30mil 2025 salary would guarantee on 3/17/2025 if he is still on the roster, and if he were seriously injured he could not be cut, and at his salary he would likely not agree to an injury settlement. I hope Carr has a great season in 2024 but if Carr struggled and we were ready to move on, it would be a disaster if he suffered a serious injury, could not pass a physical, his $30m 2025 salary guaranteed in addition to the $10mil 2025 roster bonus that is already guaranteed. The situation that would put the Saints in going into 2025 would be a disaster, with $40 million 34 year old QB guaranteed full salary coming off a big injury. And if he is struggling we probably have to pay him $40 million to sit in late 2025, because a late season injury in 2025 could result in $50 million being guaranteed in 2026 (but this is much less likely because there is no guarantee trigger in 2026, so he would just need to pass a physical before the start of the season). If our oline puts Carr at risk, it puts our franchise at risk. The Raiders sat Carr in 2022 and the Broncos sat Wilson in 2023 because of this same concern. If we get a tackle with weaknesses, it is better to get a better pass blocker and sacrifice run blocking. Its unfortunate if our running game suffers, but would not cause nearly the harm of a Carr ACL injury. |
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08-14-2024, 10:31 PM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
Falcons just got Judon. They get better, we do nothing.
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08-15-2024, 01:06 AM
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Re: Time To Move On At Tackle?
Originally Posted by rezburna
The Falcons picking up two 30 something stars both coming off big injuries and wanting new contracts may help them win now. Maybe they will even win 10 games. But they wont win a ring and in the long run this will set them back. Let them go all in this year. It will be their ruin.
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