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Don’t think so.

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Saints interviewing Miami's DC for the HC job.Former DL coach for the Ravens. Interesting pick.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...20this%20week.

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Mike McCarthy leaving Dallas
There's the new coach.

Loomis press conference
We have faith in Carrs ability
Injuries were to blame


Loomis is the problem

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Good God

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please not Mike McCarthy

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McCarthy will get us to the playoffs.

He may not win many playoff games.

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Knowing Loomis, he would try and reach out to the late “Tom” Flores.

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https://x.com/i/grok/share/IIxkEMZigkvcrDIvASXEMFP9j


Determining the next head coach for the New Orleans Saints involves considering several factors such as the team's current state, the direction they want to take, and the candidates' track records. Here are some potential candidates based on recent reports and sentiment:

Aaron Glenn: He has been frequently mentioned across various sources as a strong contender for the position. Glenn has a history with the Saints, having played for and coached under Sean Payton. His experience as the Detroit Lions' defensive coordinator and his familiarity with the organization make him a popular choice. He's noted for his leadership and understanding of what works in New Orleans.


Mike Vrabel: Although not as directly linked to the Saints, Vrabel's name has come up in discussions for his ability to build team culture and his success with the Tennessee Titans. His experience and coaching philosophy could be appealing to a Saints team looking to stabilize and grow.

Mike McCarthy: While he might not be the first choice for some due to age or recent performance, McCarthy has a Super Bowl win under his belt and could bring a level of experience and offensive-minded coaching that the Saints might need, especially if they decide to overhaul their offensive strategy.

Brian Flores: Known for his defensive acumen and his time as head coach for the Miami Dolphins, Flores could be an intriguing choice. He was interviewed during previous hiring cycles and has connections to the area, having been born in New York but with strong ties to the NFL community. His ability to rally players and his defensive schemes could be a fit for the Saints' needs.

Joe Brady: With his background as LSU's pass game coordinator and his stint in the NFL, Brady has been mentioned as a candidate, especially if the Saints are looking for someone to invigorate their offense. His odds to be the next head coach have been noted in betting circles, suggesting some level of speculation or support for his candidacy.


Darren Rizzi: As the interim coach following Dennis Allen's departure, Rizzi has the advantage of familiarity with the team, having been part of the Saints' coaching staff for several years. His potential to be more than just a temporary solution depends on how the team performs under his leadership.


Jon Gruden: Speculation exists around Gruden, although his return to coaching would be controversial due to his past issues. If the Saints aim for a high-profile name with prior success, Gruden might be considered, but this would come with its own set of challenges.

Bobby Slowik: Mentioned in broader coaching searches, Slowik's work with the Houston Texans has put him in the conversation for head coaching positions, including potentially with the Saints, especially if they're looking at offensive coordinators for their next head coach.


In conclusion, the choice would largely depend on whether the Saints prioritize continuity, cultural fit, or a fresh perspective. Aaron Glenn seems to be the most frequently suggested name, but the decision will ultimately be influenced by the team's vision for the future, interviews, and the candidates' visions for the team.

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https://x.com/i/grok/share/Srwi9CbqcnSdprx811mvvz2Wo


As of the latest information available:

Speculation and Interest: There has been significant speculation about Deion Sanders potentially coaching the New Orleans Saints. Various sources have linked Sanders with the Saints due to the team firing their head coach, Dennis Allen, and seeking a new leader. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler has noted that the Saints might be interested in hearing what Sanders has to say, suggesting they could reach out to him during their search for a new head coach.


Sanders' Stance: Deion Sanders has expressed that the only scenario in which he would consider leaving his current position at the University of Colorado for an NFL job is if he could coach both of his sons, Shedeur and Shilo Sanders. This condition adds a layer of complexity to any potential move to the NFL, as it would depend on where his sons end up, particularly Shedeur, who is projected to be a high draft pick.


Other Considerations:
Sanders has built a strong reputation at the college level, turning around the Colorado Buffaloes program. His success and charisma have made him a notable figure in coaching circles, leading to speculation about his next move.
However, his lack of direct NFL coaching experience might be a concern for some teams, although his playing career and understanding of the professional game could be seen as assets.
The Saints are looking for someone who can potentially bring a "splash" hiring, akin to what Sean Payton represented for them previously. Sanders' high profile fits this mold.

Final Decision: Given these points, while there's clear interest from the Saints and Sanders is being considered, the decision would hinge on several factors:
Sanders' willingness to leave college football for the NFL.
The alignment of his sons' NFL futures with the Saints or another team.
The Saints' evaluation of whether Sanders' coaching style, philosophy, and lack of NFL coaching experience align with their needs.

In summary, while there's a possibility, it's contingent on Sanders' personal conditions, team fit, and how the NFL coaching carousel plays out in relation to his sons. The situation is speculative, and no definitive commitment from either side has been publicly confirmed as of now.

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Leaning Brady. Is he strong enough to stand up to Loomis and the cronies?

Would view McCarthy as a quality coach but will he take us beyond round 1 of the playoffs?

Glenn is going to Jets. We passed up on him when we had the chance and now we're in a worse spot while the J.E.T.S. have money and motivation with a much better roster.

Slowik, Flores, Gruden.... none of them have what we need.

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If Sanders is hired I would no longer be able to follow the Saints. He is a horrible coach. He has done absolutely nothing but get his overrated son noticed. I would be ok with Flores, Brady, or Glenn. I would be open to others but those are the names floating around. I'd even be ok with Rizzi returning before Sanders

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Deion knows how to identify and bring in talent, build a formidable coaching staff, and motivate a team. He’d command an unparalleled level of respect in the locker room. His only issue is going to be playing daddy ball because he’s coaching his kids.

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Amen!

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Unfortunately I will watch the Saints no matter who they choose, but I agree Deion is not a wise choice. Only offensive coach I might would give a shot to is Lincoln Riley or Marcus Freeman. You may not like Riley’s style but his history with quarterbacks is second to none.

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I see things a little differently, Id say that Deion would command an unparalleled level of admiration in the locker room for what he did as a player. Deion has always been about Deion, which is globally known and understood, and while his talents on the field have motivated thousands if not tens of thousands of all ages to play the game, admiration for talent does not necessarily translate to the qualities required of a coach that make men stop, listen, and follow.

There is no humility with Deion Sanders and 'daddy ball' is part of Deion being all about Deion, his children are just an extension of him.


In other words admiration for Deion Sanders is in no way shape or form the same as admiration for Shula, Landry, or Belichick. All masters of what they did just not viewed in the same light if you get my meaning. :bng:

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Show me some form of proof. He has been a coach at JSU for 2 years and UC for 2 years. that does not make a NFL coach. He has not stayed anywhere long enough to evaluate his coaching ability or his ability to bring in players.

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If you had told me in his playing days that Deion would've become a viable coach and produced a Heisman winner I would've laughed you out of the room. It's amazing how far he's coming.

He'd be quite a gamble. But in the odd chance that it works out for him in NOLA, it would really trigger Atlanta, Dallas and San Fran, and that aspect would be very cool.

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McCarthy wouldn’t be my first choice but at the same time I think the Saints could do much worse (see Dennis Allen) than him.

They need to interview everyone.

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The Las Vegas Review-Journal’s Vinny Bonsigno reports there is “a lot of momentum” for Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson taking the Raiders head coaching job.

What a shocker this would be.

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I posted about Deon coaching the Saints a week or so ago..... New Attitude, and completely fitting for the Saints!!! PrimeTime gonna be da Coach of da New Orlean Saints. :beatnik:

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but you followed the saints with Allen at the helm???/ :beatnik:

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It would be interesting to see how effective Deion could be in the NFL as a head coach.

With the right coordinators I can see him being very successful. At least for a few seasons.

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Aaron Glenn has told people "the Jets" are his first choice for a HC job, per
@BrianCoz

https://x.com/brgridiron/status/1879614956628512874

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Bet. Let him go then.

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We passed over AG for Dennis Allen. Why would he come here with the franchise in an even worse position?

It seems to me things are likely to play out this way:
Ben Johnson > Raiders
McCarthy > Bears
AG > Jets

Personally, I want Todd Monken.

Here's the updated list of Saints interviews as of 1/16

Saints

Aaron Glenn: Interview completed Jan. 10
Mike Vrabel: Pending (request not needed) Hired by Patriots on Jan. 12
Joe Brady: Requested
Mike Kafka: Interview completed Jan. 9
Anthony Weaver: Interview completed Jan. 8
Kellen Moore: Requested
David Shaw: Requested
Darren Rizzi: Interview scheduled for next week
Mike McCarthy: Scheduled for week of Jan. 20

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I'm a little disappointed that Brian Flores' name isn't on that list.

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I wouldn't be shocked.

Tom Brady involved. Owner wants it bad. Top 6 draft pick.

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My coach wish list goes like this:

1. Todd Monken - experienced, innovative, wisdom + leadership (will at lest need a DC)
2a. Aaron Glenn - culture + defense (will need a strong OC)
2b. Joe Brady - innovative offensive mind (will need a strong DC)
4. Mike McCarthy - 10+ win teams, playoffs almost certainty
5. Someone else

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Joe Brady could be lightning in a bottle.

Mike McCarthy would be solid but the Saints need new blood.

Bring in everyone for an interview. No lazy hire this time around.

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I think the Saints would be very lucky to land Glen, Brady or McCarthy and I’d be happy with any of them.

I tend to lean a little more towards McCarthy because he’s proven and may not get trucked by the FO like a new HC might. Just my opinion.

Reality is, we’re not getting Glen or Brady. Monken isn’t even getting an interview.

Kellen Moore and David Shaw are intriguing to me. But they probably aren’t going to get it.

Kafka and Weaver don’t impress me at all really and I’d rather stick with Rizzi then go with either of them.

Should be interesting. A new coach always brings a new tone. And renewed hope for me.

Reality is, the Saints are a couple seasons from success no matter what. Unless they somehow follow the footsteps of Washington.

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Yes, it was hard but I did. Sanders has done nothing. 4 total years coaching in college. One small and one mid level college. The dude could not win in a watered down Big 12. He sure wont win in the NFL. Show me any form of proof he deserves a chance and I'll change my mind. Any form whatsoever.

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What makes Brady a better decision over the other candidates that are his equivalent as OC or whatnot in the league?

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He led a team that hasn’t won more than 5 games since 2016 to
9 wins. They were 1-11 the year before he got there.

Jackson State was 4-8. He led them to an 11-2 record in year 1 and a conference championship. He’s definitely won and amassed talent quickly everywhere he went. We gotta stop discrediting people because we don’t like their personality.

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I loved how Sanders came into Colorado. He flipped the culture and made people a LOT of money - including himself. But let's look at Sanders' coaching record:

vs FBS 10-10
vs non FBS 28-6
vs Top 25 1-6

He lost both bowl games at Jackson State

I'm not suggesting he won't be successful at the NFL level as a Head Coach, just that it may be a stretch to think he should be.

Just ask Nick Saban what that's like.

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and of course you know this to be fact...in reality it is only your opinion. :beatnik::bng: In regard to PrimeTime.... the man knows the game, went from player, to businessman, to coaching and is making a name for himself. Just 2 or 3 years ago, the Colorado Buffalo squad were worthy of a mention or two, when they beat a formidable opponent. Today we hear about the Colorado Buffalo squad before the season starts... PrimeTime. Players from Colorado Buffalo squad are being nominated for Heisman (2023 S Sanders; 2024 T Hunter winner)....Primetime. Took a losing team, and turned the losing into winning....Primetime. Give the man a chance...Primetime! All I am saying, and is my opinion, is that Sanders has the right attitude and i believe he can motivate his players to want to win! Ad nauseam, we all know the NFL is more of an "entertainment" platform and whom better to know about football "entertainment"? :beatnik::bng:

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Two people that could not be more on opposite sides of the spectrum..... :beatnik::bng:

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I don't know if Deion Sanders would be a good or bad coach but I do see a few issues with the Saints hiring him.

1. The most impressive aspect of his resume is 'turning around' troubled college programs, but he turned them around by bringing in a few big name top talent players that otherwise would not have considered those programs. He essentially did this at no cost to those universities since there is no salary cap or draft picks in college. In NFL terms, for those colleges, it is like if Deion Sanders came with two 1st round picks as a free bonus. It is not so clear to me that his coaching was especially great. If you let me bring Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons to the CFL, I could probably turn around a losing CFL franchise. He is probably and alright coach, maybe great, but for now recruiting is his main edge, and beyond his own son he recruited one big name player.

2. Deion Sanders recruiting edge will be hard to translate to the NFL, especially to the Saints. There is no recruiting of college players, at least top ones, and the Saints have no more draft picks than the average team. The Saints have the least cap space in the NFL to recruit free agents, and spending big in free agency would be a disaster that would force the Saints to restructure and extend aging players like Carr, Jordan, Mathieu, Davis, Kamara, etc to get under the cap. If the most Sanders can do is convince Tee Higgins to pick the Saints over the Falcons for similar money, he just helps us nuke our salary cap situation and bet the farm on winning now, which ain't happening. And if we ever change course, fix our cap, get young, and truly compete, Higgins will be too old to contribute then. For Deion's recruiting edge to translate to the NFL, he would have to do something like convince an NBA star to come play TE for cheap, and that ain't happening.

3. Deion Sanders has said he will only come to the NFL if he can coach his son at QB. The Saints would probably have to trade 3 1st round picks to trade up for Sanders, especially if we hire his dad as coach so everyone knows we have to trade up for him. This would create and awkward situation with Carr, Rattler, and Sanders. I want to cut Carr, but that would mean a year of no big free agents. So would Sanders want to coach his son, on a team with one of the worst olines in the league, fragile wide receivers coming off injury, no first round picks for years to improve oline and wr, and no free agent money?

4. I want the Saints to cut Carr, start Rattler, take the year off of free agency to fix their cap, and perhaps enjoy a very high first round pick in 2026 along with a much much better salary cap situation. The problem is with Deion and Shedeur this situation is all thrown off. If we trade most of our picks present and future to get Shedeur, instead of help for Rattler and Carr, we are likely to lose a lot of games in 2025, which would be ok if we had a 1st round pick. But if we trade up for Shedeur and cut Carr, we won't have a 1st round pick, and we will likely lose a ton of games with Shedeur behing a depleted aging roster and still raw, so then we will end up perhaps giving another team the #1 overall pick in 2026 which we trade three 1st rounders to get Shedeur. That would be a disaster. The other side of the disaster is if we do the same but keep Carr. Then we have Carr as the ultimate lame duck of all history, not merely a caretaker, but a caretaker waiting to be benched for the coaches son that the franchise sold the farm to acquire, leading a depleted team that had no draft picks to help him. In this situation perhaps we win a few more games because Carr is probably better than a rookie, but perhaps we dont because of the crazy situation that would put Carr in mentally. So in 2026 our trade partner gets maybe the #1 overall pick, maybe the #10 overall pick, but regardless our cap situation is still screwed up, cutting Carr will nuke it but we can't pay a lame duck $50 million, so we go into 2026 with Sanders at QB supported by no 1st round pick, a catastrophic cap situation, etc.

If Deion Sanders comes to the NFL, it would make sense for him to go to a team that has more salary cap money, higher/more picks, no expensive QB on the payroll with a massive looming dead cap hit, and at least above average assets at WR or oline to help Sanders be successful.