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saintsfan1976 02-04-2025 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1007497)
Jeanty in rd 1? I wouldn’t. He’s already carried a ton already in college.
Load up on that defensive front & oline.

In case you haven’t noticed, the offensive depth is poor in New Orleans.

Saints have far too many other needs.

So many needs I'd be ok with just about anyone at #9

AsylumGuido 02-04-2025 03:55 PM

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He's answering questions as if the deal is final without exactly saying it's final.

K Major 02-04-2025 03:56 PM

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So did Barry and LT. Look, I know it's a long shot but this kid is the real deal. Team him up with AK and Hill rotating in the backfield. That is a very scary thought for defenses. We have a rd 2 and 2 rd 3 we could load up on the lines.

Both are legends & neither sniffed a championship.

Everyone saying yes, we should draft him would be screaming next year about our lack of quality depth on the OL/DL (again).

RB is the easiest (if not one of the easiest) position in football to find a suitable starting-caliber player. Drafting Jeanty that high would set the Saints back even further.

Aside from all of that, Jeanty has a lot of mileage on him (as already pointed out), and he also doesn't seem to do much for you in the passing game.

Hard PASS.

AsylumGuido 02-04-2025 04:49 PM

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saintsfan1976 02-04-2025 07:07 PM

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Draft is deep for RB and DL.

Drafting at 9 we're likely to land one of these:

Tetairoa McMillan
Mason Graham
Will Campbell
Kelvin Banks Jr.

SmashMouth 02-05-2025 06:24 AM

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voodooido 02-05-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1007506)
Both are legends & neither sniffed a championship.

Everyone saying yes, we should draft him would be screaming next year about our lack of quality depth on the OL/DL (again).

RB is the easiest (if not one of the easiest) position in football to find a suitable starting-caliber player. Drafting Jeanty that high would set the Saints back even further.

Aside from all of that, Jeanty has a lot of mileage on him (as already pointed out), and he also doesn't seem to do much for you in the passing game.

Hard PASS.

You pair him with AK and limit his carries. Line depth in this draft is insane. You can find starting caliber tackle and guards in the 3/4. Quality d line all the way out in the 6th. You don’t pass up in a generational talent because you think he carried too much. 15 years ago 300 carries was typical.

AsylumGuido 02-05-2025 11:01 AM

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SmashMouth 02-05-2025 05:24 PM

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I would bet he's already assembled a lot of his staff. Seeing many Saints assistants taking gigs elsewhere . Fresh eyes will be a breath of fresh air for the Saints.

AsylumGuido 02-05-2025 05:32 PM

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I would bet he's already assembled a lot of his staff. Seeing many Saints assistants taking gigs elsewhere . Fresh eyes will be a breath of fresh air for the Saints.

Yeah. Been hearing his definitely been working on staff. As for those "current" Saints assistants, their days were numbered as soon as the turnover at the top took place.

BakoSaint 02-05-2025 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1007511)
You pair him with AK and limit his carries. Line depth in this draft is insane. You can find starting caliber tackle and guards in the 3/4. Quality d line all the way out in the 6th. You don’t pass up in a generational talent because you think he carried too much. 15 years ago 300 carries was typical.

No you absolutely don’t use the #9 pick on part time player to split downs with the most expensive skill position player on your offense. That is Terry Fontenot Falcons loser logic like when they drafted Blowjob Robinson when they already had a 1000 yard back or drafted Penixs after signing Cousins. Last year our top pick played almost every down and thats what we want a full time star. Star running backs are available in middle rounds of the draft and cheap in free agency or trade. Every draft is deep at RB. If this draft is deep at oline we should draft oline in the first and middle rounds so we have depth at oline for once. Jeanty may be a generational talent in FCS division II but we have no idea if he would have started in the SEC and even if he did we have seen this movie before with Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, and Mark Ingram, 1st round RB is never the best pick. Let the Falcons draft him to pair with BJ and limit their carries.

SmashMouth 02-05-2025 10:32 PM

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stickman 02-06-2025 06:26 AM

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No you absolutely don’t use the #9 pick on part time player to split downs with the most expensive skill position player on your offense.

Absolutely agree. Too many holes on the either side of the line to draft depth at another position.

voodooido 02-06-2025 08:51 AM

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No you absolutely don’t use the #9 pick on part time player to split downs with the most expensive skill position player on your offense. That is Terry Fontenot Falcons loser logic like when they drafted Blowjob Robinson when they already had a 1000 yard back or drafted Penixs after signing Cousins. Last year our top pick played almost every down and thats what we want a full time star. Star running backs are available in middle rounds of the draft and cheap in free agency or trade. Every draft is deep at RB. If this draft is deep at oline we should draft oline in the first and middle rounds so we have depth at oline for once. Jeanty may be a generational talent in FCS division II but we have no idea if he would have started in the SEC and even if he did we have seen this movie before with Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, and Mark Ingram, 1st round RB is never the best pick. Let the Falcons draft him to pair with BJ and limit their carries.

Like when we drafted bush or Duce?

neugey 02-06-2025 08:57 AM

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Absolutely agree. Too many holes on the either side of the line to draft depth at another position.


When you need everything, you can draft anything. BPA in the first 3 rounds. Just no trading up and for Pete's sake no more reaching for contrarian RAS projects.

saintsfan1976 02-06-2025 12:15 PM

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Knowing that Kellen Moore is likely to be our next head coach, I'm actually excited to watch the Superbowl now!

BakoSaint 02-06-2025 01:23 PM

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Like when we drafted bush or Duce?

Yep. Between 1999-2011 the Saints spent 6 first round picks (they traded up for williams and ingram) in 13 years to draft four running backs: williams, mcallister, bush, and ingram. During this same period the Patriots spent only one first round pick on RB. In 2009 when the Saints won the Super Bowl their leading rushers were Pierre Thomas and Mike Bell. Arguably the Saints could have been the Patiots, and Brees could have been Brady, if the Saints had Damien Woody, Richard Seymour, Nate Solder, and Chandler Jones instead of those 4 Running Backs. Those were the Patriots picks in 1999, 2001, 2011, and 2012 when the Saints used their 1st round picks to draft or trade up for running backs and the Patriots took those players at similar cost. Bith teams draft Rb in 2006 and both were meh. In 2000 the Saints 1st round pick was traded as part of the Ricky Williams deal, the Patriots as part of the Bill Belichick deal, so perhaps we could have had Belichick too instead of Haslett, and perhaps Belichick would have drafted Brady

turbo_dog 02-06-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1007529)
Yep. Between 1999-2011 the Saints spent 6 first round picks (they traded up for williams and ingram) in 13 years to draft four running backs: williams, mcallister, bush, and ingram. During this same period the Patriots spent only one first round pick on RB. In 2009 when the Saints won the Super Bowl their leading rushers were Pierre Thomas and Mike Bell. Arguably the Saints could have been the Patiots, and Brees could have been Brady, if the Saints had Damien Woody, Richard Seymour, Nate Solder, and Chandler Jones instead of those 4 Running Backs. Those were the Patriots picks in 1999, 2001, 2011, and 2012 when the Saints used their 1st round picks to draft or trade up for running backs and the Patriots took those players at similar cost. Bith teams draft Rb in 2006 and both were meh. In 2000 the Saints 1st round pick was traded as part of the Ricky Williams deal, the Patriots as part of the Bill Belichick deal, so perhaps we could have had Belichick too instead of Haslett, and perhaps Belichick would have drafted Brady

Valid points.

I do think Jeanty is a total stud, though.

neugey 02-06-2025 03:15 PM

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If we bring in Jeanty for a visit and we're convinced he's Marshawn Lynch 2.0, go for it.

BakoSaint 02-06-2025 05:33 PM

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If we bring in Jeanty for a visit and we're convinced he's Marshawn Lynch 2.0, go for it.

The problem is, even if he is Marshawn Lynch 2.0, we are the 2007 Buffalo Bills 2.0, if not worse.

bobdog86 02-06-2025 07:20 PM

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If we bring in Jeanty for a visit and we're convinced he's Marshawn Lynch 2.0, go for it.

The Bills Lynch, or Hawks version?

leilung 02-09-2025 09:12 AM

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It looks like they're just waiting until after the SB to announce it. I guess Moore is staying in NOLA a little longer to set up shop and house hunt.

https://sports.yahoo.com/reports-sai...041844922.html

SmashMouth 02-09-2025 12:07 PM

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AsylumGuido 02-10-2025 09:19 AM

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Let's make it official already.

:bng:

leilung 02-10-2025 09:21 AM

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So, did Moore make it on the plane?

AsylumGuido 02-10-2025 09:26 AM

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So, did Moore make it on the plane?

I heard he's supposed to be coming back to Nola in a couple of days or so. That sounds like he would have returned with the team. I would suppose he'd want to be in Philly for the parade and such. I don't blame him.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2025 09:31 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-10-2025 03:54 PM

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I heard mentioned today on NFL Radio's Moving the Chains that Kliff Kingsbury "turned down the HC job offer from the Saints". Nick Underhill sets the record straight. There was no offer and Kingsbury never even had a second interview like all other serious candidates. You can't always believe what you hear, especially second or third hand.



leilung 02-11-2025 11:07 AM

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Apparently, the other remaining candidates have been notified. the Who Dat Nation has their guy.

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1889354737000083804

AsylumGuido 02-11-2025 11:30 AM

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Sounds like Sirianni isn't okay with Moore bringing some Eagles assistants with him after all. Or is he?



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