Head Coaching News and Rumors

rezburna · 01-23-2025, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Looks like we're getting into slim pickins territory guys. Looks like our team is less than ideal because of the GM and the cap situation.

I wouldn’t say that.

Joe Brady
Kliff Kingsbury
Kellen Moore

Three good, young offensive minds out there.

Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though.

And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen.

SmashMouth · 01-23-2025, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wouldn’t say that.

Joe Brady
Kliff Kingsbury
Kellen Moore

Three good, young offensive minds out there.

Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though.

And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen.

Flores and KK out of that list. KK is still getting a check from AZ. Not sure he's motivated yet. He did decent with a shorty QB in AZ.

saintsfan1976 · 01-24-2025, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wouldn’t say that.

Joe Brady
Kliff Kingsbury
Kellen Moore

Three good, young offensive minds out there.

Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though.

And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen.

Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton.

Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen.

It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense.

If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years.

jnormand · 01-24-2025, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton.

Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen.

It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense.

If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years.

I agree completely. McCarthy is a huge upgrade over DA. And he’s proven.

saintsfan1976 · 01-24-2025, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I agree completely. McCarthy is a huge upgrade over DA. And he’s proven.

And....he's a GOOD coach.

Side note the rumors that AG wanted Loomis replaced are disturbing and also validate our thoughts about how professionals view him...

mapcow · 01-24-2025, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton.

Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen.

It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense.

If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years.

Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy!

bobdog86 · 01-24-2025, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy!

Sure, but is it really saying anything? I wouldn’t put too much into.

BakoSaint · 01-24-2025, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy!

Maybe the reason that the Saints were so great at the start of the season is that a team made up of old savvy veterans, highly injury prone players, players who play recklessly and take risks, and a roster built on the philosophy of trading up in the draft and signing the #1 free agent at the expense of depth, that all that is a roster built to start fast and fade quick. Our roster philosophy was screw depth, screw youth, ignore college injuries, win the week one paper lineup war at all costs, and switch to a more physical offense to really light it up.

In the end, McCarthy had a down year, but Dennis Allen has never had an up year. But damned if Mickey Loomis didn't build Dennis Allen the perfect roster to have an up half month. If the Saints hadn't faced a conference championship caliber team that excels in the trenches week 3, maybe they could have had a good month. But with no depth, and so many old and fragile players, it was never built to last.

stickman · 01-25-2025, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

In the end, McCarthy had a down year, but Dennis Allen has never had an up year.

There is a truth bomb for ya.

saintsfan1976 · 01-25-2025, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy!

LOL... DA then went on to lose 7 straight. Nice try.

01-23-2025, 09:11 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by rezburna I wouldn’t say that. Joe Brady Kliff Kingsbury Kellen Moore Three good, young offensive minds out there. Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though. And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen. Flores and KK out of that list. KK is still getting a check from AZ. Not sure he's motivated yet. He did decent with a shorty QB in AZ.

01-24-2025, 06:40 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by rezburna I wouldn’t say that. Joe Brady Kliff Kingsbury Kellen Moore Three good, young offensive minds out there. Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though. And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen. Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton. Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen. It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense. If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years. jnormand likes this.

01-24-2025, 10:31 AM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton. Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen. It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense. If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years. I agree completely. McCarthy is a huge upgrade over DA. And he’s proven.

01-24-2025, 10:50 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by jnormand I agree completely. McCarthy is a huge upgrade over DA. And he’s proven. And....he's a GOOD coach. Side note the rumors that AG wanted Loomis replaced are disturbing and also validate our thoughts about how professionals view him... jnormand likes this.

01-24-2025, 01:54 PM	#6
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Mike McCarthy is far superior to DA. Looking at record alone, he's essentially Sean Payton. Look, I'd love to have one of the young wunderkinds come in and revolutionize this franchise. But I wonder if we have the right GM to make it all happen. It just feels like they'll want someone more proven, with HC experience and the vision for leading an entire team, not just the offense or the defense. If we "end up" with McCarthy we'll all be happy because the Saints will be in the playoffs again inside 2 years. Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy!
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01-23-2025, 05:26 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by leilung Looks like we're getting into slim pickins territory guys. Looks like our team is less than ideal because of the GM and the cap situation. I wouldn’t say that. Joe Brady Kliff Kingsbury Kellen Moore Three good, young offensive minds out there. Nobody put in a call to Brian Flores yet either. He’s probably blackballed though. And still…Mike McCarthy is better than Dennis Allen.

01-24-2025, 05:39 PM	#7
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by mapcow Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy! Sure, but is it really saying anything? I wouldn’t put too much into.

01-24-2025, 08:52 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by mapcow Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy! Maybe the reason that the Saints were so great at the start of the season is that a team made up of old savvy veterans, highly injury prone players, players who play recklessly and take risks, and a roster built on the philosophy of trading up in the draft and signing the #1 free agent at the expense of depth, that all that is a roster built to start fast and fade quick. Our roster philosophy was screw depth, screw youth, ignore college injuries, win the week one paper lineup war at all costs, and switch to a more physical offense to really light it up. In the end, McCarthy had a down year, but Dennis Allen has never had an up year. But damned if Mickey Loomis didn't build Dennis Allen the perfect roster to have an up half month. If the Saints hadn't faced a conference championship caliber team that excels in the trenches week 3, maybe they could have had a good month. But with no depth, and so many old and fragile players, it was never built to last. Danno, saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.
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01-25-2025, 08:36 AM	#9
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,765	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by BakoSaint In the end, McCarthy had a down year, but Dennis Allen has never had an up year. There is a truth bomb for ya. leilung likes this.

01-25-2025, 07:54 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coaching News and Rumors Originally Posted by mapcow Did not Dennis Allen out coach McCarthy and the Saints defeated the Cowboys 44 -19..... Not Saying too much for McCarthy! LOL... DA then went on to lose 7 straight. Nice try. jnormand likes this.